Kill stealing out of control

[Videri]

I have found it pretty easy to get to level 5, travel all over Norrath inviting my officers, gate back to Misty, and get to level 7 in NRo without kill-stealing anyone at all. I just don’t think it’s that hard to refrain from pulling an already-aggroed mob. You may have to go to other zones, or form a group, or wait by a group until they need a replacement, or just watch ooc for 10 min until someone says LFM.

[Rooj]

I have to say I was thoroughly surprised by the lack of KSing I've experienced. Although I am mostly playing during off hours currently and late night people are usually way more relaxed.

[Wwen42]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I got 3 different rulings on one single camp.

It was 2 under-leveled orcs in Misty Thicket that spawn right next to each other and drop belts that give you exp 10+

Day 1- Someone is camping both and gives the camp to a friends and I. 15 mins later a new duo comes in and plops on our spot. Guide A rules its FTE and uses the phrasing that we need to hit the mobs first. He says we should go to a dungeon if we want to claim 2 mobs like these. I always respect what the Guide's/GMs say and follow it.

Day 2- There's a duo there. I start killing 1 orc just like Guide A ruled the previous night. They petition. Guide B comes in and says we each take 1 spawn point. It's a different ruling but fine.

Later Day 2- Same situation as before. I start killing 1 orc. Guide B comes in and banishes me from the camp. The situation was the same exact as earlier. Same guide gives a different ruling on the camp and what's a KS. Guide B starts insulting me a bit. Saying I'm like Alleriah who was banned for massive RMT. Says if I'm in petition again he's going to suspend me. Keep in mind I've played since blue classic and I've never ever been so much as warned for anything.

WTF are the rules? Good luck to you people doing competitive stuff on this server longer term. Up to a certain point you really have to roll the dice with this human element that can screw you at any moment if lets say they don't like the way you phrased something.

Whoa, sounds like that GM should be banned. That's not good behavior. Inspector General?

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by Wwen42 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whoa, sounds like that GM should be banned. That's not good behavior. Inspector General?

Give them a break! They are probably being bothered constantly with this petty bullshit and they are doing it for free.

Not saying what happened isn't bullshit, but let's be real here: It is not a coordinated customer service department.

[Wwen42]

You're not wrong, but people with power lording over those with none makes me punchy. If you want to push people around, have children like a normal person. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I make my son do his homework AND brush his teeth.

[cd288]

GMs/Guides need to be giving consistent rulings IMO. If it's truly the same situation and the same Guide, then the ruling should be the same. The ruling should also be consistent with what you would receive from another staff member. It's not fair to players to have different rulings be handed out such that you never know if something one staff member said was okay is something you're going to get in trouble for with a different one.

[Wwen42]

I can roll with chaos and even confusion (getting two ruling from the same GM), but insulting and making threats is out of line. C'mmon man, smoke some weed and chill out.

[Danger]

i'm telling you guys, challenge people to duels and take the law into your own hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFkdcQgNJHo

[Chardy]

Green sounds fun...

Wipe it clean! Red 2.0!

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

GMs/Guides need to be giving consistent rulings IMO. If it's truly the same situation and the same Guide, then the ruling should be the same. The ruling should also be consistent with what you would receive from another staff member. It's not fair to players to have different rulings be handed out such that you never know if something one staff member said was okay is something you're going to get in trouble for with a different one.

Agreed. I try to be very careful with what happens with staff rulings and the spirit in which they want to rule..... but I don’t completely stop playing the camps that I like and want to play. It’s a really bad feeling when you’re trying really hard to follow their direct instructions and you just get in trouble again for doing it. And then it’s even worse when you follow their instructions and then you get attacked on a personal level.

I had comparisons to Alleriah made to me by the second guide. Alleriah was banned for a massive rmt scheme while I’ve never even been warned for an infraction on blue.

I used to talk to Sirken personally when these problems came up and he would get to the bottom of things. Things like that look like they just don’t happen anymore.