Green should disallow GINA - Page 9

Mblake81 · #81 10-16-2019, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like having the freedom to decide if I want to use gina or not. The problem with calling for things to be banned is when does it stop and who gets to decide what's worth a ban.

There is a bigger picture and it's not a 1 issue topic. You want gina banned. But do you want forced fullscreen? When will it end. Just let the people have freedom.
So keep calling for things to be banned until they come to your front door and tell something you have has been banned.

Steroids should be mandatory in professional sport.

Ok, but the point of this server is to recreate the classic experience. We are not actually talking about a real life scenario where the gestapo are coming door to door. Where does it end? that is easy. Was it in classic or not? that is your answer.

The original game forced the screen (periscope or toggle full screen). Should P99 also force it? if not then you can do things you couldn't in era. I have been testing full screen only, sometimes I remind myself I am spoiled when i can't open up Youtube for a few minutes while medding but that is the game in how I remember it.

I am thinking what possibly could Rogean or Nilbog change (classic change) that would upset me so that I would get up in arms about it. I wasn't one of the pet window guys or any of that.

The other point, I am not sure if you are being serious. Players should get juiced to play? so in EQ sense with this comparison Rogean and Nilbog should package GINA with the P99 download and make it an integral part of the game.

Baler · #82 10-16-2019, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mblake81 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, but the point of this server is to recreate the classic experience.

The SERVER yes
The USER no, this part can never be recreated.

People will write their own private log parser if they ban gina. (there are already some on github)

get, over, it.

Vexenu · #83 10-16-2019, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like having the freedom to decide if I want to use gina or not. The problem with calling for things to be banned is when does it stop and who gets to decide what's worth a ban.

There is a bigger picture and it's not a 1 issue topic. You want gina banned. But do you want forced fullscreen?

Is there any conceivable advantage from playing in a window that could not be achieved playing fullscreen with a second monitor? Not really.

Contrast with GINA, which absolutely provides very noticeable gameplay enhancements.

Look, I understand where you're coming from. It's a neat program that enhances the game. It gives you more control and awareness that you wouldn't otherwise have. But that's exactly why it's not classic and it doesn't belong on Green. Leave it on Blue for the hardcore min maxers to play with since it's been going on for so long now. But there's no justification to have it on Green if the goal is to promote a classic EQ experience.

Mblake81 · #84 10-16-2019, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The SERVER yes
The USER no, this part can never be recreated.

People will write their own private log parser if they ban gina.

get, over, it.

Anything to get an edge I guess.

Baler · #85 10-16-2019, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But that's exactly why it's not classic

Proof please, Show proof there wasn't a text parser with audio and visual during classic.

Since text parsers are older than windows I'm pretty sure you're searching for a black cat in a dark room.

Vexenu · #86 10-16-2019, 08:46 PM

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Proof please, Show proof there wasn't a text parser with audio and visual during classic.

Boxing was classic. Yet boxing is banned from this server. Do you understand why? If so, then you understand why GINA should be banned as well.

Chortles Snort|eS · #87 10-16-2019, 08:46 PM

GINA NOT CLASSIC
inb4 disabled from green

Baler · #88 10-16-2019, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Boxing was classic. Yet boxing is banned from this server. Do you understand why? If so, then you understand why GINA should be banned as well.

That's a reach. Boxxing isn't a program.
Nope, no correlation between boxxing and gina. sorry

Also I think 99% of people on p99 prefer no boxxing. Not the best argument material.

Tenlaar · #89 10-16-2019, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The SERVER yes
The USER no, this part can never be recreated.

People will write their own private log parser if they ban gina. (there are already some on github)

get, over, it.

If the staff says that using a third party program that emulates those functions is against the rules then people being able to make their own doesn't suddenly become not against the rules, what are you even trying to argue here?

Mblake81 · #90 10-16-2019, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Proof please, Show proof there wasn't a text parser with audio and visual during classic.

Since text parsers are older than windows I'm pretty sure you're searching for a black cat in a dark room.

I don't doubt you in this. It is not something provable or not. Maybe if someone has a parser from back then or can find a download link on a website it would provide positive proof.

It very well could easily be one of those EQ secrets that some of the best players were using back in the day, like recharges etc that the normal players were not aware of.

It's a case of Git Gud and if you are willing to do that for the win.