The Resist System Balance Thread

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd be level 50 by the time you camped all that

I'll even make this into a flow chart type of situation, since you like graphs and what not! I'll explain how to get all that gear through simple grouping as a melee!

1. Level in your start area til level 5
2. Go to crushbone and level to 15 collect Dwarven Ringmail tunic while you're there
3. Move to unrest until your mid twenties, obtain bloodstained mantle
4. From there head to upper guk, collect bracers, RBF, Collar. and shin gauntlets while here
5. You can alternate this for solA and collect your arms and boots while here
6. You can also alternate deep runnyeye and get your head slot and mask while grinding to 30+
7. In your down time, port to rivervale collect your earrings, WR bags, from nilipus quest
8. Port to Karana collect a belt from the ogres, run the rat ring in qeynos, head to permafrost and group up in polar bear area collect legs from the goblins
9. Run the Langseax quest from halas and collect your sword, kill icebear for your cloak along the way

Basically on your grind to 40 you can pick up all this gear, then at that point you just grind out 50 in royals or some shit.

[wehrmacht]

Originally Posted by Abacab "The REAL truth" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[*]Go to crushbone and level to 15 collect Dwarven Ringmail tunic while you're there

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Originally Posted by Abacab "The REAL truth" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[*]Move to unrest until your mid twenties, obtain bloodstained mantle

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[Koota]

Valid points countered with ... completely irrelevant screenshots?

[Foxx]

Originally Posted by Koota [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Valid points countered with ... completely irrelevant screenshots?

welcome to arguing with whermacht

[Heywood]

Originally Posted by Macken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry bro already been confirmed by Macken himself.

It's hard to really understand what Null means.

If He is saying that a begin of cast los was added sept 2002, I would say that sounds about correct.

If he is saying that end of cast los was added sept 2002, then he is dead wrong.

About velious time on SZ, they experimented with end los for about 2 weeks or so and then canned it. Why? i don't know. I always assumed it was because they realized it was ridiculous. If you had spent any time playing an int caster, you would realize this already and know your memory is confused based just on the fact alone that it is crazy unbalancing.

But what i do know and remember well is casting through walls during the early days. I would sit in the goblin basement in HHK and type /pet target name. My animation would grab anyones target in the zone no matter how far. (worked in all zones) I acquired target and nuked once. Xebekn the necro would then cast one dot, wouldnt even use pet. Poor neuts didn't even know where it was coming from. People would cry out Xebekn! where are you? But couldn't come through kos mobs to find him. Couldn't find him upstairs. We did it all the time for months on end. (probably why they added begin cast los lol) Xebekn wracked up coins. You think im going to forget that?

When someone would find us, I would run up two flights and into a room. And nuke through the wall whoever i had on target last if they followed.
In Crystal caverns down in the city, thats how you fought. Get a target, go in a room and hope they stay in range.

The list goes on and on.

When did they add begin cast los? sept 2002 close to luclin/PoP sounds good to me. When did they add end of cast los permanantly? NEVER bro NEVER.
Even though i havn't played live in years, as far as i know, its still like that today. And until someone like Sniperfire who would know comes on and tells me different. Thats the way it is even right now bro.

The point is wehrmacht, as usual you are wrong AGAIN.

If it would make you feel better I would admit it doesn't even matter that you are wrong AGAIN. It doesn't matter that it was always like that on live (no end of cast los). All that matters is that it would be stupid to have end of cast los period. Whos gonna port you bro? We can't all be melee. Why must you insist on engineering us all that way?

Yes, I specifically remember this in Rallos Zek. We would be grouped in the HHK killing goblins and every now and then a PKer would come and do this. I still remember us in the group wondering where the PKer was at haha. good times.

I played just after EQ started (just before the patch where you couldnt fear/charm PCs anymore?) up until PoP on Rallos Zek.

[Envious]

Jesus Wehr, I remember you from VZ / TZ, and you seemed semi sane then. Albeit I didnt talk to you much.

Did you start selling your lithium to college kids for meth money?

[naez]

Macken killed Chadlek in Lower Guk - Fri, 19 Mar 2004 21:53
Chadlek killed Macken in Lower Guk - Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:22

[Macken]

First ever Fabled.

Macken solo vs. 6-15 Neuts. Minimum odds 1-6. Maximum odds 1-15. Over 3 days. Must protect fabled. No options. Take one for the team.

Chadlek killed Macken in Lower Guk - Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:22
Sowaholic killed Macken in Lower Guk - Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:50
Cochise killed Macken in Lower Guk - Sat, 20 Mar 2004 15:21
Quad killed Macken in Lower Guk - Sat, 20 Mar 2004 02:06
Tearing killed Macken in Lower Guk - Sat, 20 Mar 2004 00:02
Tearing killed Macken in Lower Guk - Sat, 20 Mar 2004 02:52
Crazycloud killed Macken in Upper Guk - Sun, 21 Mar 2004 07:34



Macken killed Daryoth in Lower Guk - Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:34
Macken killed Sprout in Lower Guk - Fri, 19 Mar 2004 12:45
Macken killed Daryoth in Lower Guk - Fri, 19 Mar 2004 12:03
Macken killed Kinrab in Lower Guk - Fri, 19 Mar 2004 12:21
Macken killed Chadlek in Lower Guk - Fri, 19 Mar 2004 21:53
Macken killed Lulweian in Lower Guk - Fri, 19 Mar 2004 22:11
Macken killed Tearing in Lower Guk - Sat, 20 Mar 2004 01:21
Macken killed Cruxshadowsx in Lower Guk - Sat, 20 Mar 2004 01:04
Macken killed Venj in Lower Guk - Sat, 20 Mar 2004 04:10
Macken killed Kinrab in Lower Guk - Sat, 20 Mar 2004 05:12
Macken killed Kinrab in Lower Guk - Sat, 20 Mar 2004 05:44
Macken killed Kinrab in Lower Guk - Sat, 20 Mar 2004 05:27
Macken killed Chromefist in Upper Guk - Sun, 21 Mar 2004 07:29
Macken killed Niumudien in Upper Guk - Sun, 21 Mar 2004 08:12
Macken killed Chromefist in Lower Guk - Sun, 21 Mar 2004 08:00
Macken killed Owll in Upper Guk - Sun, 21 Mar 2004 09:20

16-7 while grossly outnumbered. Died 7 times over 3 days. Int Caster in a dungeon vs. all classes. The most deaths in a weekend of my whole career. But it had to be done.

Team player.

[Xebekn]

LoS was a double check for a bit in EQ (no dates)

Somewhere in velious maybe, they went to no LoS checks for whatever reason and it was insane.

Soon, they went to a single check on beginning of cast. Easily the most balanced and it stayed that way.

You have two directions go here on red p1999:

1) How it was on eqlive during classic which would include no one knowing about any quests, drops or zones (probably impossible).

2) Have a balanced server that is competitive.

Wehr, you're playing for the first option. The resist system worked then because no one had the gear. It won't work now because everyone knows where it is and how to attain it.

It sounds like others are interested in the second option and I would agree. Make it balanced which means, among other things, having a higher resist check for spells across the board and also having the first LoS check only.

[Lasher]

uh oh xeb