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Old 09-13-2019, 05:38 PM
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Old 09-13-2019, 05:56 PM
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Because Everquest always has and always be, a PvE MMO.
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Old 09-13-2019, 03:14 PM
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We would like players to have their fair shot at obtaining limited time items, and to that end we are devising a system for a server-kept 'list' of players in line to loot said item. Upon entering a zone or camp area, you will be able to enter a command to add yourself to the list for this item. While your name is on that list you must remain in the zone or camp vicinity until your name reaches the top (You'll have a limited time to re-enter the zone or area in case of disconnection). Once your name is up, and the item drops, you will automatically be granted exclusive permission to loot that item from the corpse. We hope this system will prevent the practice of passing camps and/or items to friends, corpsing additional items, and so on. We believe this should closely mimic how the majority of camps were handled in classic Everquest, and is the best solution to mechanically enforce it. More details about this system will be announced prior to launch.
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Old 09-21-2019, 08:23 AM
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+1 , simple solutions to complex problems, truly professional!
What?

Lists is a terrible idea, to service carebears and people whom can't achieve getting items in the normal way.

Talk about a big government approach to a low resolution problem that is and was managed by players
A system by players that is poor is still a better system than something forced upon us by the feeding hand.

Remember all the niggles and silly tweaks done to the raiding system instead of letting it be classic? ;all the groans about invisible lines and player counts in zones, and other ridiculous stipulations?

Lists will be that and more.

And wasn't one of the rebuttals by staff why they couldn't provide services that they'd like to, because they're so busy with nonsensical things that take up their time?
Once again, enter Lists.




And yet in the same breath, they're going to merge levelled up and geared up players into blue, all complete with items that have not dropped in some cases a decade ago - from a different server.
Forgetting how unbalanced that is, it completely disregards every effort they ever made to keep blue classic by ensuring the items were removed as expected for the past ten years.
What absolute level of Snoop Dogg high did Nilbog have to get to, to think this would ever work?

I guess the way to view this is, Green is not a classic server. It's a custom server with some classic influence.

Green should be an explicitly and uncompromising classic server that has one custom allowance, which is PVP in certain raid zones.
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Old 09-21-2019, 09:02 AM
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What?

Lists is a terrible idea, to service carebears and people whom can't achieve getting items in the normal way.

Talk about a big government approach to a low resolution problem that is and was managed by players
A system by players that is poor is still a better system than something forced upon us by the feeding hand.
"Managed" by players? Managed, yeah, as in, cabals of characters up 24/7 locking down camps in perpetuity by people sharing accounts and handing them off to their buddies when they go to bed, ignoring other people asking to be next on the list, corpsing lore items, etc etc etc

Bitch all you want about the proposed formal list procedure on Green, point out that ANY system will suffer from attempts to game the system, it will still be better than the alternative. You know who you are, your bad faith exploiting and lawyerquesting is what brought this on and you have no one else to blame
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Old 09-13-2019, 03:21 PM
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Old 09-13-2019, 03:27 PM
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I don't think people understand that an MMO needs players. 1,000 people isn't that many. If you split it into two servers you might as well just go play on your own private server by yourself. There will be no economy.

I'm wondering if the fan boys here are just blindly praising and have no actual play time in this game. Lists are not classic. Part of the classic experience was putting in the hard work and now it's just being given to you
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Old 09-13-2019, 03:32 PM
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I don't think people understand that an MMO needs players. 1,000 people isn't that many. If you split it into two servers you might as well just go play on your own private server by yourself. There will be no economy.
Right, you heard the man. Let's just give up on this whole Green concept. Rubbish idea anyways.
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Old 09-13-2019, 03:29 PM
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Old 09-13-2019, 03:30 PM
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There is no "original state" unless you can travel back in time. Classic EQ was only possible to experience in 99. We are in 2019 now, you can experience Green, which includes some non-classic features meant to emulate what it was like to play in 99, even though it is impossible now to reproduce the magic, the exploration, the mystery, the unknown, that everything was at the time.

Enjoy what Green is and stop being an elitist, you know you are being one right now.
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