America Vs China

[mitic]

china and usa would kill each other and austria emerge as the new global power

obv~

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[Beastro]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My point stands. Discounting the PLAAF is a fool's errand.

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5th gen fighters were only our little secret while the f-22 was the yf-22..

The cat is out of the bag.

Still in prototype and won't be in service for more than a decade, the mainstay will remain Sukhoi ripoffs just like the US will remain tied to the F-15,-16 and -18.

For the next decade or two China will still retain it's old weakness' but come 2030-2040 is when they'll pull a head of the US. Even then the faction that wants a blue water navy will still be babying an infant fleet.

BTW, the ballistic carrier killers was just a BS project started by the brown water clique to undermine said blue water proponents drive for a navy to challenge the USN.

Anyway, US politics fucked over the USAF by canceling the -22 after only 189 units. Such a small number, all will be over worked and I doubt many will last beyond 2020.

China won't over take America by catching up and surpassing US tech, American politics is glad to freeze their force in the 1980s and let the Chicoms play catch up....

The rest if the air arm.... well all I can say is "Dave", with a shudder.

[Beastro]

Originally Posted by mitic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

china and usa would kill each other and austria emerge as the new global power

obv~

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Damn bullpups, keep those AUGs in Counter Strike.

[mimixownzall]

With a far superior navy/air force, China would have a hell of a time getting here.

That is a long distance to cover trying to get millions of personell to america.

Let's say they do manage to get to America. Now they face the most heavily armed civilian population on the planet.

[Beastro]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeeeeah.

It's the same aircraft.

Chengdu is the manufacturer of aircraft model J-20, code named "The Black Eagle."

Tired, got the engines wrong.

They seem to be testing two different engines on two prototypes, the native (rip off) WS-10 and the Russian AL-31F.

You want us to think that you're smart, huh?

Spare me the dick waving, I'm just posting in this stupid thread to keep it from degenerating into blind US patriotism and anti-Americanism.

[Beastro]

Originally Posted by mimixownzall [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With a far superior navy/air force, China would have a hell of a time getting here.

That is a long distance to cover trying to get millions of personell to america.

Let's say they do manage to get to America. Now they face the most heavily armed civilian population on the planet.

No damn way China could fight to the US, a logistical impossibility.

The only scenario would be a war with Korea as the battlefield. Beyond that it's just the USAF and USN against the PLAN and PLAAF on China's doorstep.

The US would economically choke China to death before they too would succumb to the economic dark age plaguing the whole world the war would cause.

[naez]

US cannot economically "choke" China. The US economy depends on Asian credit just to keep going, whereas China can sustain itself.

Also the Chinese navy would defeat the United States' with ease, especially with a home-court advantage. One submarine can sink an entire fleet of ships before backup subs arrive. However the United States has flying saucers that go underwater, but I'm not sure if they are equipped with any sophisticated weaponry (but I would assume so).

[Beastro]

US cannot economically "choke" China. The US economy depends on Asian credit just to keep going, whereas China can sustain itself.

The US has the military to blockade China long enough to drag them down along with.

In the end this thread is just silly because it all comes back to the enormous economic damage that would result from such a war.

Also the Chinese navy would defeat the United States' with ease, especially with a home-court advantage. troll troll troll troll troll

Could have gotten a bite had to you not added in the flying saucer bit there man.

[naez]

Yea I thought I might have trolled a bit too far

[Ronas]

Was just thinking back to Iraq wars, the first time around with Kuwait America/UN stuck a sanction on fresh water/food and disarmant of any missle/biological weaponry to Iraq. The second time around the justification of invasion was for non-existant WMD.

Basically invaded a country with no defense system, demoralized/rotting population, no offensive capabilities. I guess that poor country was a dumping ground for the US to send all there expired weaponry on to make new and improved ones.

The strategies used was to go all out with no form of retaliation, China on the other hand is a whole new playground, the chings actually think. That's the major turning point in war games, its not who has the better weopon but who has the better plan as history has shown us time and time again.