an angry goblin ?AGREEMENT?

[Bbeta]

at the moment there are two players ready for an angry goblin, Diamondfist 2/11 turn in and myself Bbeta 2/12 turn in. We both agree that an angry goblin could be handled in a civilized manor. What we are proposing is that we do the turn in to an angry goblin in order of who ever got shady first.

Diamonfist (2/11) would get this coming angry
Bbeta (2/12) would get the following
???? (2/13) would get the one after and so on.

This list will get large in many moons from now but this will help ensure that this is handled civilized. To keep things neat and tidy we can follow the 20 min rule set, If you miss your window, you are bumped to the next spawn in order of the original waiting list. We can easily go down the list for the next person. So if you are top 3 or 4 it would be wise to be ready for him to pop.

[diamondfist]

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[aaezil]

so you want a list 500 players long of when they got shady goblin and for the players to all agree/adhere to it?

Ok guy!

Its gonna just be stormfeather 2.0

[Bbeta]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so you want a list 500 players long of when they got shady goblin and for the players to all agree/adhere to it?

Ok guy!

Its gonna just be stormfeather 2.0

this could work till it doesn't work anymore. Atm it makes more sense because this is a 3 day instead of an 18 hour. if the list gets 500 players long the people invested in the list will want to honor it. its a self healing list.

[Triiz]

Sure the first 10, 20, maybe 30 or even 50 people might agree but when there's 100+ people waiting the majority of people are going to agree to wait almost a year instead of taking their chances? Really doubt it

This would be a big incentive not to agree to or honor a shady goblin roll if you had low or decent ping. Someone could take their chances with a roll and possibly finish the quest a few years from now or they could compete, possibly win after a couple tries, and get a guaranteed angry goblin in a month or two and works towards the rest.

edit: Just saw the shady goblin variance post, first part still applies. Fortunately we just had 40 threads about how great competition for BIS loot is for P99. Said angry in first edit but meant shady. Stupid ass shady angry goblin names.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Triiz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure the first 10, 20, maybe 30 or even 50 people might agree but when there's 100+ people waiting the majority of people are going to agree to wait almost a year instead of taking their chances? Really doubt it

This would be a big incentive not to agree to or honor a shady goblin roll if you had low or decent ping. Someone could take their chances with a roll and possibly finish the quest a few years from now or they could compete, possibly win after a couple tries, and get a guaranteed angry goblin in a month or two and works towards the rest.

This. Infinitely long lists demoralize everyone. Scout works because everyone has a fresh chance every time. A short list where everyone has a chance to get slot #3 (because that's how long the max list length is) or something like that might also work, but I just don't see anyone liking a system where they're #89 in line (even if there were in fact 88 people in front of them). It might be the most fair system, but it doesn't seem viable for this server. Fairness in the form of an equal roll seems far more viable.

[Alanus]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This. Infinitely long lists demoralize everyone. Scout works because everyone has a fresh chance every time. A short list where everyone has a chance to get slot #3 (because that's how long the max list length is) or something like that might also work, but I just don't see anyone liking a system where they're #89 in line (even if there were in fact 88 people in front of them). It might be the most fair system, but it doesn't seem viable for this server. Fairness in the form of an equal roll seems far more viable.

Good point. My vote is that shady and angry should both be roll

[Alanus]

Why not make it a roll and everyone helps like Scout? The people in the zone would probably like the sweet faction hit anyway

[aaezil]

Originally Posted by Alanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why not make it a roll and everyone helps like Scout? The people in the zone would probably like the sweet faction hit anyway

14+ hours of variance is why not

[Alanus]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

14+ hours of variance is why not

Everyone waiting there when it pops can roll. I don't see why that should matter.

Either way is fine with me, but I still need the other goblin first