PvP Thread, Balancing issues / Parsing / Resists / Known issues.

[Alawen Everywhere]

In this thread: a handful of guys from the failed VZTZ server try to shout down a guy who actually played on EQ live.

[Aerist]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In this thread: a handful of guys from the failed VZTZ server try to shout down a guy who actually played on EQ live.

I remember you spending hours camping dino spawn on VZTZ bro, glad to see you made it to a good home. I played on live pvp also, I just don't mention it every post, because live pvp was very imbalanced, I think we need a beta server up to get some testing done

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by Aerist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember you spending hours camping dino spawn on VZTZ bro, glad to see you made it to a good home. I played on live pvp also, I just don't mention it every post, because live pvp was very imbalanced, I think we need a beta server up to get some testing done

You must mean those couple hours I was out there when Big Knuckle came out to teach me a lesson and instead found himself back at his bind point.

You're knocking me for trying to get resist gear? Really?

If you browsed this forum a little bit, you'd discover that I get along with basically no one. I refuse to participate in the god spawn camping and I can't wait for red99. I'd say consider yourself added to my kill list, but I pretty much want to kill anyone I can all the time already, so no change.

[Bombfist]

Man people on these boards are angry, i get a giggle and a small twitch in my nut sack every time wehrmacht posts, and i still feel a little bit of love when he gets trolled into secretly telling me how much he loves my company, but scanning over the other thread and seeing this ;

I seriously hope you are the victim of an act of random violence. Literally. You or your family, whatever monsters created you also deserve severe punishment.

I dunno, all seems a bit pointless.

Relax guys, it's just the internet.

[Foxx]

alawan, me and u get along gr8. we r def pals, cant wait for red box

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by Foxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

alawan, me and u get along gr8. we r def pals, cant wait for red box

Cool. You and me against the world, then. Bard and wizard? Two necros? Necro and cleric?

[Foxx]

iono they both sound gr8 ! i like necro and wiz, thats alot of ganking ability rite there + ports. omg win, also druid/necro so good, i like sow its A+++

[AffEcT]

It brings me joy to see Null back on the court.
Yatta!

[Knuckle]

Originally Posted by Null [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It depends on what you are trying to do though. If your goal is nostalgia then sure, tune that thing exactly how EQ PVP was back then and enjoy.

But you are going to be hard pressed to convince (at least a good chunk of people) that EQ PVP was remotely close to balanced. It was an afterthought and largely ignored in patches for years at a time. It didn't need to be balanced to be fun, but think about what it could have been had they invested at least a little time into basic issues.

I don't know if any of you play fighting games, but Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo is considered one of the best competitive fighting games of all time. A few years ago they made Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo HD Remix with a large amount of minor balance changes that overall made the game more competitive. They didn't go in and give new abilities and they didn't go adding new characters. What they did was took advantage of 15 years of experience on the game to improve it in the spirit of the original.

That is the advantage that we have here, knowledge and the tools to make it better. To me the biggest issue with classic pvp is resists, because I distinctly remember people pissed off (and for good reason) burning through a whole manabar into someone afk and being unable to land anything.

To me, using Identical gear levels, Player A should be able to kill an AFK Player B using melee (for melees) and spells (for casters) or a combination (for hybrids) in a reasonable amount of time or about 1 bar of mana maximum.

I think I sort of got off on a tangent there but yea, I think if the goal is to relive the classic pvp experience then try and recreate things exactly the way that they were. However if your goal is to create a balanced PVP environment then tweaking the resists in some way are all but required.

How odd, we've been having a throwback month and there has been a large amount of Street Fighter 2 Turbo in the evening on the Sega Genesis. Null, welcome to hell 2.0 buddy!

[Walk It Out]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In this thread: a handful of guys from the failed VZTZ server try to shout down a guy who actually played on EQ live.

my red brothers never judged me, i played on zek up until HoT expansion