Hyjal ruins server wide NTOV crawl...

[syrox]

Originally Posted by rezzie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Taken from the Lord Bob Discord after they announced they were going to ignore the agreement, then forced to agree to it due to GM intervention.

Obvious joke is obvious.

[Teako]

Originally Posted by syrox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes.

It may be hard to believe, but soon choose not to join AM for reasons. It should be obvious based on the apparent low bar, based on some members I've met.

Personally, joining along with a force that's killed a mob a thousand times for yet another kill is rather banal. Classic for me is figuring out strategies, trying, and failing until we succeed. Spending the day doing Zlandi in a new way was pretty interesting. If I were in AM's position that day, it would have been clear to me that I was in the wrong raid force, for my preference. I enjoy the challenge, which for me is most similar to being in my all-server-first guild on live.

I understand these mobs have all been killed before. They're new to our force. It's exciting. And does AM only award dkp on kills? I know awakened awards on losses and awards hourly for long raids. Its kinda standard.

I can't imagine a "lower bar" than "no requirements at all" that Lord Bob / Venerate requires.

11 page thread summarization -- Cryjal made a big stink about how ONLY his clusterfuck alliance should be the "server pug".. Every other guild on the server agrees, Cryjal insists he wants MORE in turn for not competing on mobs he can't win without self-imposed lockouts from Aftermath. Aftermath just trying to do fun shit with the server. Sirken says tough titties lil boyo remember that time I didn't permaban you for that scumbag shit at vulak? we're doing the crawl.

Raid mobs killed by Lord Bob alliance that were not under Aftermath self-imposed lockout timer: Zero.

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by syrox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's all fair, and I can respect all that. It's quite different from the perspective that a lot of AM members flaunt of "AM is the be-all and end-all, and if you're not dominating the server, you're shit." Particularly when they're tagging along with a raid that's done the same target dozens or hundreds of times already, but still acting like they were the ones that invented the strategy and put in the work for it. Sounds like a nice community, not unlike the dozens of others, but in terms of the EQ gameplay, it seems a bit dull for my tastes.

Sounds a bit dull?

You say Aftermath sets the bar low. Is that a bad thing? It's a time locked server, on an mmorpg that requires pressing two keystrokes to top a DPS meter. We can teach anyone who is green to raid at a top level. It's not rocket appliances. We had a mage who has played EverQuest for literally 1 month total in a critical position to pull vulak two weeks ago.

On the flipside of that, we also harbor the most skilled, helpful players on the server. That mage was in the right position and knew what to do because he had received tremendous amount of help from the other mages in our guild learning the roles. You think we're not constantly evolving strats for raid targets? Check out Rogean's post from last week. Why do you think he had to post that?

I come from a smaller guild. I loved the people in that guild. FoH. But what was dull was sitting around for 1-2 hours, wiping 3-5 times, and not getting any drops. In AM, a mob pops, I log in, 10 minutes later i log out. The competition (when not banned) is a lot of fun, and adrenaline pumping at times.

And sure, we have elitist douchers in AM. But there are plenty of elitist douchers NOT in AM as well. I.E, you.

[Bigmoneybabybaby]

“It’s not rocket appliances” well that’s a new one.

[matticas]

well the good news Venerate/Bob is, after this crawl and call to arms thing Detoxx put together, they'll get their chance to compete with AM and everything will go back to normal—with them getting nothing

[syrox]

Am I elitist?

[syrox]

Originally Posted by matticas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well the good news Venerate/Bob is, after this crawl and call to arms thing Detoxx put together, they'll get their chance to compete with AM and everything will go back to normal—with them getting nothing

We've gotten several engagements prior to the 12h windows, and I'm sure we will continue to do so afterwards.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by syrox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We've gotten several engagements prior to the 12h windows, and I'm sure we will continue to do so afterwards.

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[arcalion]

Ahh Detoxx the server cuckdaddy, my join date > yours... Molon Labe!

[Arkanjil]

Originally Posted by arcalion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ahh Detoxx the server cuckdaddy, my join date > yours... Molon Labe!

My join date > yours.