Scout Roll Agreement 2017

[azeth]

Originally Posted by amandaleigh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Been playing this game a long time. Clickfest is shit. The few rolls I attended were superior, everyone was civil towards each other, everyone helped each other. I vote yes.

This is how bad laws get passed through congress. Surface value says its for the greater good... but the details tell a different story.

This proposed new agreement has nothing to do with avoiding the click fest.

OP is trying to change the rules to force the winner to be the one to loot.

Don't pass a bad bill.

[Smurflogik]

Based on the status of the vote, it looks like the only people against the agreement are the vocal trolls in this thread, representing a small slice of the overall population.

Yes vote from me because there are TONS of camps/targets to compete over. A very small handful have player agreements in place (Sky, Ring War, etc.), and I think those agreements promote a healthier server, provided there are only a few of them.

[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by Smurflogik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Based on the status of the vote, it looks like the only people against the agreement are the vocal trolls in this thread, representing a small slice of the overall population.

Yes vote from me because there are TONS of camps/targets to compete over. A very small handful have player agreements in place (Sky, Ring War, etc.), and I think those agreements promote a healthier server, provided there are only a few of them.

currently there's 41 votes to Yes and 17 No votes

58 votes total.
70% vote for yes
30% vote for no

You say it's only a "small slice" and "it's only the vocal trolls." 30% is not a small slice, dude.

I'm obviously in favor of opening content up to the general public, as I spearheaded the Open Naggy/Vox agreement for this server.

This idea is just not going to fly in the p99 scene. You have 3/10 people disagreeing on a roll, which is about the same as it was when Velious dropped. This camp is not changing. It's going to be BiS for eternity on a server of autistic basement dwelling stay at home sons who don't stop at getting BiS on their character, or even their second character.

This thread is getting trolled because it's a futile idea proposed in an untimely manner and anyone who has been around long enough to have a sense of the server will know that this is just another shitpost starting with OP.

[Smurflogik]

Originally Posted by skarlorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

currently there's 41 votes to Yes and 17 No votes

You say it's only a "small slice" and "it's only the vocal trolls." 30% is not a small slice, dude.

It's a significant minority. Call it what you want, I suppose. It's a (relatively) small group of people shouting the loudest.

I like the agreement. You're entitled to your own opinion.

[NecroP99]

Not sure how this would ever be enforceable whatsoever unless Sirken ruled on it. You do realize there are players who don't even read these boards right?

Honestly if someone just wanted to clickfest instead of roll they could right?

[LiQuid]

Originally Posted by NecroP99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure how this would ever be enforceable whatsoever unless Sirken ruled on it. You do realize there are players who don't even read these boards right?

Honestly if someone just wanted to clickfest instead of roll they could right?

The fact that we've gone a month without a clickfest means the system is already working. The system which already includes people that don't come to this forum. This thread is just seeking to legitimize the rules that we've already been using.

[Legidias]

Originally Posted by LiQuid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact that we've gone a month without a clickfest means the system is already working. The system which already includes people that don't come to this forum. This thread is just seeking to legitimize the rules that we've already been using.

As can be seen here and in other thread, the only rule people have "already been using" is rolling to turn in. Apparently everyone had different idea what to do with disk. Hence. Discussion.

[LiQuid]

Originally Posted by Legidias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As can be seen here and in other thread, the only rule people have "already been using" is rolling to turn in. Apparently everyone had different idea what to do with disk. Hence. Discussion.

Yeah that appears to be the case. This bums me out because as I think I mentioned in the previous thread, 2 of my guildies came in first and 2nd just yesterday and the first place guy lost his tools, so the 2nd guy ended up winning. He was willing to give the disk to the guy that had actually won but we decided against it because we didn't want to mess with that I thought were well established need rules based on the previous month's worth of rolling.

So if the server is this split on whether or not the roll is for need or greed I'm going to try and organize as many of my guildies showing up to these until we can collectively win one for the guy who "won" yesterday.

[NecroP99]

Originally Posted by LiQuid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact that we've gone a month without a clickfest means the system is already working. The system which already includes people that don't come to this forum. This thread is just seeking to legitimize the rules that we've already been using.

This thread has done just the opposite in my estimation. It's pretty clear that a large segment of the population does not agree with this rule set. This is not something that should be unilaterally enforced because not all parties are consenting. The second this had 1 vote of no the agreement was invalid. however its not 1 vote is 30% of the votes

[Legidias]

Congrats on winning click one of the few times <Savage> wasnt there?

The thread isnt about clickfest at all, isntead this has been a discussion (well I tried to make it a discussion) about how to make it a good roll.

As stated above, OP is only trying to change rules to give himself better chance at loot, end of story.

Roll = ownership of mob, extremely simple.

vs

Roll = ownership of mob, only if you deserve it, according to a select criteria of which is not disclosed, and if arbitrarily accepted by one random person in forums who decides who gets what loot, is not simple and is not fair.