Why not switch?

[tnttoken]

Which is why I say that a good guild from blue could all come over and stick together and really have some fun and farm whatever they wanted!

[Qtip]

Originally Posted by Nixtar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is very possible. All it takes is one guild to start acting like somewhat well adjusted people... Which is the core problem for red. It is being run by man-children who think EQ PvP takes balls.

EQ pvp takes tissues. Lots and lots of tissues.

[mickmoranis]

why is it up to red to act like well adjusted people when nobody on blue acts that way?

[skarlorn]

I quit red after getting my shaman to 47. Me and my trio were fighting our way to our first ever efreeti camp, and then som elevel 60 druid and his friend came and trained us to death on purpose. They didn't even want the camp, and since we were out of pvp range they resorted to dirty tactics.

I've always enjoyed PvP - but the fact is that in Red, you're more likely to die because of some douchebag abusing the rules and getting away with it because there's no real GM presence, and who the fuck really wants to petition because some out of range high level was training them?

waste of time

[mickmoranis]

yea total waste of time.

not like blue, a very good use of your time.

[skarlorn]

yes it is a better use of time if you are interested in community oriented gaming

[mickmoranis]

you have to make friends to survive on red, you can solo to BIS on blue and be a warm body on raids with huge numbers of folks that dont talk and only log in to raid.

idk how you think blue is more community oriented but thats just false.

You cannot and will not be able to surivive on red w/out a community of pals.

[skarlorn]

It's more community oriented because there's less toxic abuse to newer players, more options for the type of community you want to join, and has a larger stream of fresh players to interact with.

Theoretically, sure, red could be great. But, for whatever reason (the players), it's a shithole that will drive you away once you get to the higher levels.

[Loke]

I really enjoyed leveling on red. Have a 60 cleric there. However, the server became much less fun once I was in range of 60s. I had to go hide with a duo partner in a locked wing of HS to get 60, because any where that didnt require at least some effort to get to resulted in getting griefed by geared out 60s. I don't mind pvp, but getting killed repeatedly in 3 v 1 fights when the 3 are raid geared pvp classes and you're a cleric wearing bronze armor gets old reaaaal fast.

Toxic red players killed the community due to their lack of self control, valuing kills over community, and no amount of begging blue players to give it a try will fix that situation.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by supermonk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i hit 60 on red, raided a little and then quit back in kunark. i wasn't griefed off, but the community is really just a piece of shit; not to me personally..but when i saw a lot of people make fun of a dude bc he's in a wheelchair for life, that's just too far.

if you're goal is to see new content and do more classic raids (clearing to bosses, etc.) without the blue mechanics, then red might be for you..that's if you can tolerate the community.

The person in question stole from his employer, blamed it on his coworker who went to jail, stole multiple guild banks, and has RMTed hundreds of items that he stole.