Rules Clarification Request

[Ivah]

Originally Posted by Onigumi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hows is 3 people pelling a mob and 20 any different in both cases you dispel a mob and it kills people and they lose exp.



This "Intentionally causing experience-loss to other players in the PvP environment is illegal in all cases and may result in disciplinary action when witnessed by a P99CSR" rule sounds like it was made to protect players leveling up or from having their binds trained but instead has been used as a cure all for staff to susp people.

the player base that's getting susp for this huge grey area of a rule is lvl 60 with max exp and rezes available. They lose maybe 1% exp.

As it's been stated 95% of the player base will run in to mobs to die rather then take a YT.

Going with a strong troll on this. No can be so ignorant that they believe this is about "intentional" exp loss

[Onigumi]

Originally Posted by Ivah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Going with a strong troll on this. No can be so ignorant that they believe this is about "intentional" exp loss

That is the rule the GM's are citing.

From Cylock, your doing nothing but trying to wipe another guild and cause them an XP loss, which is against the rules.

From Sirken, pelling with the intent to manipulate mobs to intentionally cause xp loss to other players is not ok as stated in our rules that are posted publicly for all to see

[Symbioticforks]

Originally Posted by Onigumi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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This "Intentionally causing experience-loss to other players in the PvP environment is illegal in all cases and may result in disciplinary action when witnessed by a P99CSR" rule sounds like it was made to protect players leveling up or from having their binds trained but instead has been used as a cure all for staff to susp people.

the player base that's getting susp for this huge grey area of a rule is lvl 60 with max exp and rezes available. They lose maybe 1% exp.

As it's been stated 95% of the player base will run in to mobs to die rather then take a YT.

You're telling me I can run into mobs, feign death and it grants PVP IMMUNITY? Should someone break my feign it's considered intentionally causing experience loss in any number of locations full of high level hostile NPCs.

Seems dumb.

The person who runs around mobs while there are hostile players nearby is putting themselves in harms way, and should take all the risk associated with doing so. You cannot ask other players to leave you alone as you attempt to close the distance or make an escape through NPCs.

Feigning death on a Necromancer to send pets after people through hostile mobs is a game mechanic. Pet attack and feign death are some pretty core abilities for a Necromancer. If that's not intended, or classic, patch it out.

[Symbioticforks]

Originally Posted by Onigumi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is the rule the GM's are citing.

From Cylock, your doing nothing but trying to wipe another guild and cause them an XP loss, which is against the rules.

From Sirken, pelling with the intent to manipulate mobs to intentionally cause xp loss to other players is not ok as stated in our rules that are posted publicly for all to see

It's too bad there aren't locked PvE encounters in Everquest.

It would just be straight up PvP for all PvE content. Instead of people manipulating NPCs they have no intent to kill through dispelling. i.e. Out of range or trash can naked characters trying to whipe people instead of kill them. Even without the in game systems in place, you could still implement the rule and in the end get MORE PVP out of it. It would make players bring forth legitimate characters to contest content and force PvP. Bash healers, focus the tank, disrupt the raid by all means. Doing anything else is honestly kind of insulting.

[hatelore]

I say get a few groups of sk's/monks together, pvp, when shit goes south just all fd. I mean, its against the rules to break fd.


Sounds legit.

[Ivah]

Originally Posted by Onigumi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is the rule the GM's are citing.

From Cylock, your doing nothing but trying to wipe another guild and cause them an XP loss, which is against the rules.

From Sirken, pelling with the intent to manipulate mobs to intentionally cause xp loss to other players is not ok as stated in our rules that are posted publicly for all to see

What does this have to do with breaking hide, sneak and feign death?

[Onigumi]

It doesn't, you messed up the quote so i have no idea what you are you talking about.

Originally Posted by Ivah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Breaking hide, sneak, and feign is now against the rules. Just gonna throw this out there "This us a red server. Red things happen."

Are you saying this isn't about exp loss?

[Ivah]

Originally Posted by Onigumi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It doesn't, you messed up the quote so i have no idea what you are you talking about.



Are you saying this isn't about exp loss?

Guess we need to make all players immune to PvP when engaged on a NPC or it can cause intentional exp loss. Attacking any player engaged on a PvE target should now be a suspend-able offence.

[Onigumi]

Originally Posted by Ivah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guess we need to make all players immune to PvP when engaged on a NPC or it can cause intentional exp loss. Attacking any player engaged on a PvE target should now be a suspend-able offence.

You just have to wait till the mob is dead but if the player dies from the pressure you put on him by watching then yes you will be susp

[Ivah]

Originally Posted by Onigumi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You just have to wait till the mob is dead but if the player dies from the pressure you put on him by watching then yes you will be susp

going with throw away account see ya