Monopolizing Scout in WW...

[skarlorn]

I love to play on project 1999 elf server with all these normal, healthy adults.

[Lammy]

Last time Scout was locked down by an individual Braknar rewarded him with a permanent vacation to use his new keyboard on some other game. Perhaps it gave him some motivation to seek employment. But sadly it seems okay to use Autofire as long as you're not dumb enough to make a personal fraps and share it on youtube.

[kagrobb]

change it to 45 min repop

[khandman]

Scout Charisa is the 'Hyper Sports' equivalent for the 21st century [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[TheDuck]

this is done at every "needed" piece on p99. people who treat farming like its some kinda job (is it a job? i think we can guess), basically there is absolutely no reason for people to be out at this camp rotating it between him and a few others since velious launch, whats the point.(i think we all know the point), when does he have time to play the alt he is gearing up with all that plat? (bullshit he doesnt have an alt to play).

I dont play anymore, i do enjoy the community though, i started on blue and realized blue is like this all through the game, these seemingly never ending farmers that never leave that camp, and i play 24 hours at a time, for fun. like you know, getting my item and progressing. These people are littered throughout blue and it's like some kind of heirarchy. Depending where u fit in the social status of farmers you are allowed to keep that plat source on farm.

I wish the staff would do something about the obvious plat farmers littered throughout the blue server. Classic was nothing like trying to beat your way through plat farmers, not in the least. if its not jboots, its an epic piece, if its not an epic piece, its scout, if its not scout its the FBSS camp, if its not a haste item camp its something else. the same people have been sitting on the same camps for years.


edit : plat farmers = use imagination.

double edit: forgot to mention, these guys have been on the server long enough to know the landscape, say all the right things when the GM's come around to make sure the the FTE's and camp lists are working correctly. These people repeatedly win out in lawyer quest situations to new players. i remember when i played live, i never had to refer to a rule book constantly, i always went by the "don't be a dick policy". If i didn't know better i'd say u got the perfect plat farming system that takes advantage of new players who need there items but cock block the items thru rules and perma farmers, forcing the new players to farm raw plat to buy the items.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by TheDuck [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i always went by the "don't be a dick policy".

The problem here is the people running the plat camps non-stop can't help it. Their thirst and greed overrides any sense of moral scruples they should have. It's like some sort of weird pixel addiction/disease.

Also, because others who run the plat camps behave in this way, it seems to create a merry-go-round situation where this behavior is encouraged.

A year ago I went from playing like a true casual, then joining a relatively successful raiding guild to see how it was, plus I thought it would be fun to develop my toon and gear him up. I seen the same type of greedy behavior exhibited by the guild and not just to other guilds.

I witnessed firsthand how greedy many of these dudes are.

One guy literally has at least 5 alts I know of, all geared better than most members mains in the guild mind you, yet this did not stop him from sending me a tell begging me to "buy" an item I won fair and square on a /ran roll when it was determined many of us could use the item for a quest. He wanted the quest item for his alt. Nevermind I had one main, and nevermind his alts were all geared better than my main. Dude had to have this quest piece.

Thing is, a large number of the players in these raid guilds either are blind to it, or simply choose to pretend they don't see this selfish, greedy, nasty behavior. It really appears the majority of them have truly drank the koolaid.

These types of players are the majority in the top tier echelon of raiding and plat farming camps I believe.

Either you act this way, or you get scraps and leftovers. Just how it is here. Sad.

I know many of these same greedy dudes will say, "Yeah but, I put the time in I deserve what I get that's how it works." But, it's not how it works. You can show some sort of decency towards other players, and control your inner greed and desires so others can get some too.

You don't have to be so greedy and so shitty to other players that you simply control a camp whenever you are logged in and can. You can let other people who can't sock a camp or item 24/7 have a chance to do it sometimes, too. This is being a greedy POS if you deliberately hold a camp hostage and do not allow all the hundreds of other players a chance to enjoy a camp, ever.

[Lammy]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem here is the people running the plat camps non-stop can't help it. Their thirst and greed overrides any sense of moral scruples they should have. It's like some sort of weird pixel addiction/disease.

Also, because others who run the plat camps behave in this way, it seems to create a merry-go-round situation where this behavior is encouraged.

A year ago I went from playing like a true casual, then joining a relatively successful raiding guild to see how it was, plus I thought it would be fun to develop my toon and gear him up. I seen the same type of greedy behavior exhibited by the guild and not just to other guilds.

I witnessed firsthand how greedy many of these dudes are.

One guy literally has at least 5 alts I know of, all geared better than most members mains in the guild mind you, yet this did not stop him from sending me a tell begging me to "buy" an item I won fair and square on a /ran roll when it was determined many of us could use the item for a quest. He wanted the quest item for his alt. Nevermind I had one main, and nevermind his alts were all geared better than my main. Dude had to have this quest piece.

Thing is, a large number of the players in these raid guilds either are blind to it, or simply choose to pretend they don't see this selfish, greedy, nasty behavior. It really appears the majority of them have truly drank the koolaid.

These types of players are the majority in the top tier echelon of raiding and plat farming camps I believe.

Either you act this way, or you get scraps and leftovers. Just how it is here. Sad.

I know many of these same greedy dudes will say, "Yeah but, I put the time in I deserve what I get that's how it works." But, it's not how it works. You can show some sort of decency towards other players, and control your inner greed and desires so others can get some too.

You don't have to be so greedy and so shitty to other players that you simply control a camp whenever you are logged in and can. You can let other people who can't sock a camp or item 24/7 have a chance to do it sometimes, too. This is being a greedy POS if you deliberately hold a camp hostage and do not allow all the hundreds of other players a chance to enjoy a camp, ever.

I'm pretty sure your typical Neckbeard has some sort of real life handicap or social disorder. It's an escape, and is most likely why they dedicate their entire lives to the pixel hunt. I know I tried it for a period once on P99. You can do it for a while but you'd have to be quite the exception to maintain a quality real life and keep a solid raid attendance in those guilds. That's why most of them are miserable people who rock their jollies on you not getting their pixels. Just look at the way some of them speak to GMs and other players. It is a sickness though, so you can't really call them bad people.

[Alanus]

Originally Posted by Lammy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty sure your typical Neckbeard has some sort of real life handicap or social disorder. It's an escape, and is most likely why they dedicate their entire lives to the pixel hunt. I know I tried it for a period once on P99. You can do it for a while but you'd have to be quite the exception to maintain a quality real life and keep a solid raid attendance in those guilds. That's why most of them are miserable people who rock their jollies on you not getting their pixels. Just look at the way some of them speak to GMs and other players. It is a sickness though, so you can't really call them bad people.

You nailed it. I used to play on live way too much. It was an escape for me. I had no real life. It was college and EQ. That was it.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Lammy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is a sickness though, so you can't really call them bad people.

That's a little too Zen Buddhist for my blood. You're right, sociopathy is a mental disorder, but under the "you can't really call them bad people" ethos you have to be consistent - if a psychopath murders your best friend, then you can't hold them in contempt either.

[Meep]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem here is the people running the plat camps non-stop can't help it. Their thirst and greed overrides any sense of moral scruples they should have. It's like some sort of weird pixel addiction/disease.

Also, because others who run the plat camps behave in this way, it seems to create a merry-go-round situation where this behavior is encouraged.

A year ago I went from playing like a true casual, then joining a relatively successful raiding guild to see how it was, plus I thought it would be fun to develop my toon and gear him up. I seen the same type of greedy behavior exhibited by the guild and not just to other guilds.

I witnessed firsthand how greedy many of these dudes are.

One guy literally has at least 5 alts I know of, all geared better than most members mains in the guild mind you, yet this did not stop him from sending me a tell begging me to "buy" an item I won fair and square on a /ran roll when it was determined many of us could use the item for a quest. He wanted the quest item for his alt. Nevermind I had one main, and nevermind his alts were all geared better than my main. Dude had to have this quest piece.

Thing is, a large number of the players in these raid guilds either are blind to it, or simply choose to pretend they don't see this selfish, greedy, nasty behavior. It really appears the majority of them have truly drank the koolaid.

These types of players are the majority in the top tier echelon of raiding and plat farming camps I believe.

Either you act this way, or you get scraps and leftovers. Just how it is here. Sad.

I know many of these same greedy dudes will say, "Yeah but, I put the time in I deserve what I get that's how it works." But, it's not how it works. You can show some sort of decency towards other players, and control your inner greed and desires so others can get some too.

You don't have to be so greedy and so shitty to other players that you simply control a camp whenever you are logged in and can. You can let other people who can't sock a camp or item 24/7 have a chance to do it sometimes, too. This is being a greedy POS if you deliberately hold a camp hostage and do not allow all the hundreds of other players a chance to enjoy a camp, ever.

There was one guy in a guild I was in, and about 18 months ago maybe now he had literally 7-8 characters he'd raid with depending on what the raid was and what we were doing. The DKP system was at the point where everyone would bid the minimum and usually get it, so he'd often have his other characters camped out just in case something was going to rot... he'd get it for the minimum each time.\

Nothing wrong with that you might think... but while it didn't happen to me he'd sometimes ask people in the same class he was playing ahead of time NOT TO BID, like really as if he needed it more but wanted to pay the minimum and no more than that.

What you going to do with 7-8 averagely geared characters? Loser. Gear 1-2 and gear them properly. 1 is best. Stay focused.