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Old 12-11-2016, 11:04 AM
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all depends on the size of the schnoze my friend.

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Need one to get to a billion.
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Old 12-11-2016, 04:47 PM
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That's a common rationalization of the afterlife and reincarnation, but in order to confidently assert that, one must have either experienced death (disproving the rationalization) or admit that their belief is just as faith based as any other belief
Personally I'd go with Animal, but what's the dif? they are all Propaganda Broadcasting System puppets hehe like a stealthy version of the Voice of America which is the official propaganda broadcast that used to even be illegal to broadcast in the US until they lifted the anti-propaganda laws. but anyhoot... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not so common, I mean the amount of people in the world that believe that and then rationalize it that way. But of those that do believe that, yeah they seem to rationalize it that way. And sure, it's a faith based system same as any other, a belief in the unseen mostly. I guess the belief in utter chaos, which in itself is profoundly miraculous and takes a substantial amount of faith to believe. I lack such faith hehe. But as it stands, some 90% of the worlds population believes in some form of afterlife. They say ~85% now, but likely a good bulk of the ~15% just don't really contemplate it. There are true believers though, annihilationists or what have you, they have always been around through history.

Yep, I require some level of proof. Especially considering the complexity of existence, it sort of debunks chaos on many levels, which is a lot to get into and beyond the scope of this thread. But we believe in an afterlife because we imo are 100% spiritual beings by nature, while we are also connected to a physical body (as it is) so to interact in this realm. It's our place to become aware, to mature, to make choices, then to move on (imo out there is way better than here). Some people fear that, others don't, actually. All I really fear is pain, the obvious response of the physical body. But then that too I fear less having had gone through prolonged physical pain at one time, very severe. But yeah anyway, life, existence, reality, all just too complex for me to put faith into chaos of any sort. I'm just too weak to do that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But there is a lot to faith, and they are not all the same. Blind faith is pretty common. Those things that are built on the experiences of others, or of no one. Little faith is also common, often times a part of blind faith, but less fervent most of the time; because little faith can have many doubts, but blind faith can be very fervent for some. But then there is first-hand experiential faith, less common but does exist. Some of it from deceiving entities though imo, while others imo genuine.

But there is more to it than personal experience too, quite a bit more actually, just like in a court of law and all the articles of evidence required to form a judgement. Those thing's I see, but that's my experience, and you can only find it for yourself. No one else can do it for you, it's not like a hand-me-down garment or something.

As for reincarnation, my main problem is the lack of evidence. Sure there is a lot in the form of past life regression accounts, but all that there by any sort of evidence is based solely on that alone, often from dreams or hypnotism or just plain philosophy. In a court of law that wouldn't fly. And you recognize the other problems, such as the amount of souls available. A lot of different problems arise really, and in the ancient beliefs it seems more a punishment, constantly doing it over to get it right. I see no 'right' in this world, looks more like an eternal punishment, at least until the universe quits functioning, which it will as it may not be from chaos but it's certainly falling into decay and death.

Keep searching, it's there. I know this. The sad part is that as it's right there and we keep denying it, burdened down, it becomes even harder to notice. I'd suggest searching my title quote, has always been one of my favorites. The only thing that I ever have doubts about is just me, I provide my own chaos. *lifts leg to thread then darts off chasing a car bumper*
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Old 12-11-2016, 06:01 PM
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Is there any evidence that afterlife does not exist though?
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Old 12-11-2016, 08:01 PM
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Is there any evidence that afterlife does not exist though?
why would science (which is the explanation for everything that ever existed) not apply to religion? because some people with a book said so? its just irrational to think that there is magic such as this exists. it has no science to back it up
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Old 12-11-2016, 09:18 PM
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why would science (which is the explanation for everything that ever existed) not apply to religion? because some people with a book said so? its just irrational to think that there is magic such as this exists. it has no science to back it up
You're putting quite a bit of faith in science there friend. Why do you believe the things that science teaches you? Because some scientists with a book said so? Religions have explanations for everything that ever existed too. We've never seen evidence of aliens, but almost any rational scientific mind would allow the possibility of their existence. Know what else that exact same logic applies to? God man...

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Old 12-11-2016, 09:22 PM
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Old 12-11-2016, 09:25 PM
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Old 12-11-2016, 09:46 PM
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Old 12-11-2016, 10:08 PM
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Old 12-11-2016, 11:23 PM
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It's silly to assert any sort of truth.
You do realize that's like a double negative statement? It cancels itself out [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
You could slip into a whole paradox event there, bending time and space in on itself.
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Yeah, academia "science" is lost in a fog, truth goes to the highest bidder. Just like it seems cold fusion has been proven, but buried for sake of oil wealth. There is truth, but then there is opposition.
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