Fighting dragons at ToV zonein

[Joyelle]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not so worried about that, just the fact that train pulling mobs to get a Dragon solo to entrance just trivializes the content. Wipe on an encounter is easy to overcome, mobs have shorter life spans, mystique of fighting your way to a Dragon lair is gone, etc. It just encourages fast 3am poopsocks.

Nerf please, ignore poopsock tear protests

Why did you guys pull Fesh to LTK last night? Doesn't that trivialize the content? It's absolutely fanstastic that you guys constantly preach wanting to clear to the dragons yet when you have the opportunity you never do it.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Joyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why did you guys pull Fesh to LTK last night? Doesn't that trivialize the content? It's absolutely fanstastic that you guys constantly preach wanting to clear to the dragons yet when you have the opportunity you never do it.

Probably because they weren't afforded the opportunity to do so. Anytime CSG tries to crawl they get obliterated with "pulls". A/A isn't going to just halt operations and let someone else clear content normally.

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Probably because they weren't afforded the opportunity to do so. Anytime CSG tries to crawl they get obliterated with "pulls". A/A isn't going to just halt operations and let someone else clear content normally.

As Chest says, we've tried it. Been there, ate that 4-way concrete and didn't like the taste. We went the political route and spent lots of time discussing with leaders of guilds as to the kind of server they wanted to create and to the GMs and eventually the Devs. Everyone at every level agreed that it was painful and hurt their real lives but that they wanted it no other way.

So if we are all going to drink the pixel poison, I might as well flavor it with kool aid too.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by Joyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why did you guys pull Fesh to LTK last night? Doesn't that trivialize the content? It's absolutely fanstastic that you guys constantly preach wanting to clear to the dragons yet when you have the opportunity you never do it.

This isn't true. I'm not even in AG but I've definitely heard of them crawling through ToV to kill dragons during slow server times.

Chest is right that when A/A is on this isn't possible behavior. I don't understand why you'd bring it up, knowing that fact.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't true. I'm not even in AG but I've definitely heard of them crawling through ToV to kill dragons during slow server times.

Chest is right that when A/A is on this isn't possible behavior. I don't understand why you'd bring it up, knowing that fact.

They tried to clear to ikitar which is the closest mob to the zone in and still couldn't even get past the hub in an hour which is the server gms established time limit on an FTE.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They tried to clear to ikitar which is the closest mob to the zone in and still couldn't even get past the hub in an hour which is the server gms established time limit on an FTE.

yeah this happened prior to the ridiculous footracing rules. imo if you're gonna do that just permaroot them and have done. there is nothing less classic than the footrace. at least permarooting happened on live somewhat close to this era.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah this happened prior to the ridiculous footracing rules. imo if you're gonna do that just permaroot them and have done. there is nothing less classic than the footrace. at least permarooting happened on live somewhat close to this era.

No, they did it after the foot race FTE rules were implemented too.

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by Joyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why did you guys pull Fesh to LTK last night? Doesn't that trivialize the content? It's absolutely fanstastic that you guys constantly preach wanting to clear to the dragons yet when you have the opportunity you never do it.

I'm against it in principle, but my guild does do it and I even participated in an attempt on a different mob last night. We're all in a position with current ruleset to keep up with the Jones' or get nothing, its the current raiding paradigm (and as Chest mentioned, training is a huge problem). It's like being against FTE foot races, yet you are being forced to participate in order to kill mobs.

Just accept that training mobs to get solo dragons to entrance is a cancer that has overtaken everyone, it was not what the original developers intended for content. We should all want to be better than that.

[Ella`Ella]

If any of the CSG guilds suddenly became 'top of the food chain' they'd exhibit the same exact behavior as A/A.

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If any of the CSG guilds suddenly became 'top of the food chain' they'd exhibit the same exact behavior as A/A.

Couldn't be more wrong.