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[maskedmelon]

I am just wondering what the concern is. I understand it is possible to intentionally alter one's preferences, but outside nymphomania I can't see why someone would purposely seek to alter their sexual tastes on that level. Seems like a stretch to suggest as ATG has that someone is going to decide that because they have failed finding a partner in 50% or the population, they ought to redirect their search to an alternative 2%.

I know exposure can alter preference too, but I don't see why that is a concern either tbh. I mean, what straight person is going to decide to immers themselves in gay culture and activity until they develop an affinity for it? That's irrational.

What is the concern Fash? I understand the behavior is morally repugnant to you, but what are you worried will happen? Everyone will become gay?

Honestly want to understand the concern.

[fash]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My understanding is that it IS a choice for a majority of gays. Gay communities debate this all the time, and many lesbians, on the other hand, report that it is a choice. Gay men report that its a choice much less.

But that there are true gays who are absolutely gay regardless of their upbringing. As you stated, the attraction is entirely different than what heterosexual men experience.

Last I read about this, it was believed to be a mixture of both. The gay lobby, of course, prefers the 100% genetic, 0% environment story as it better suits their agenda.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Last I read about this, it was believed to be a mixture of both. The gay lobby, of course, prefers the 100% genetic, 0% environment story as it better suits their agenda.

Indeed. And only the educated man knows better than to apply one-size-fits-all to anything in this world.

Similar politics with addiction "its a disease, its genetic". Same agenda politics as the gay lobby, many parallels in the playbook.

[fash]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is the concern Fash? I understand the behavior is morally repugnant to you, but what are you worried will happen? Everyone will become gay?

No. It's degenerate to society. It's antithetical to the family and gender roles that empirically exist for good reason.

Also, sexual orientation and transgenderism are rather different things. Transgenderism is a reality-detached mental illness. I expect you're insulting many homos drawing those parallels.

[fash]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kinda askew from the current tangent, but why does it matter?

Society matters because we are social creatures. Both genders serve necessary and important purposes in society. Those purposes are not egalitarian. They are unequal and sometimes unpleasant. But they have led us to become the most successful species on the planet.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. It's degenerate to society.

K, so what is the feared outcome of the degeneracy? What will happen? How will society degenerate? Will everyone become transgender? Will spouses become unfaithful and children decide they want to grow up to be the opposite sex? What is the anticipated outcome of the degeneracy you are concerned with?

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Society matters because we are social creatures. Both genders serve necessary and important purposes in society. Those purposes are not egalitarian. They are unequal and sometimes unpleasant. But they have led us to become the most successful species on the planet.

Sorry deleted that because was more directed to the previous convo of genetic vs. i.e. environment source of homosexuality and wanted to get to the heart of the other topic we were discussing ^^

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

K, so what is the feared outcome of the degeneracy? What will happen? How will society degenerate? Will everyone become transgender? Will spouses become unfaithful and children decide they want to grow up to be the opposite sex? What is the anticipated outcome of the degeneracy you are concerned with?

If you want answers to those questions you'd want to consult a historian who is also a Roman Empire expert.

This is a major focus of study for even doctoral candidates who study and examine the Roman Empire. The political questions of our time were the same exact questions of their time, in regards to social welfare and homosexuality. Nero for example was the first one to coin the idea of Foodstamps by using tattoos and Roman citizen identification marks (mark of the beast).

That's a tangent. But homosexuality was one of the issues that the Roman Empire decided to try to tackle, because it had been legal for so long. The question is why did they determine that homosexuality was bad? That's where I'd be looking.

I doubt you will find anyone here equipped enough to field your question from a historical standpoint. The history of other advanced civilizations and homosexuality is probably the best starting point to begin to answer the questions you asked.

Rome has a lot to teach. Homosexuality started out as legal, and was widely accepted among politicians and elites until the final years of the Empire. In the final years, it was outlawed. Why?

[Nihilist_santa]

From what I understand the residents of Sparta also practiced pederasty but it was later outlawed or forbidden. This was before the Romans and not subject to Christian influence.

[fash]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

K, so what is the feared outcome of the degeneracy? What will happen? How will society degenerate? Will everyone become transgender? Will spouses become unfaithful and children decide they want to grow up to be the opposite sex? What is the anticipated outcome of the degeneracy you are concerned with?

It erodes the family and gender roles. A society's success is built upon those. They've led humanity to conquer the planet and build massive civilizations. Why is it important to keep society strong? For its future success i.e. your children.

I'll respond to your triple questions in a sec. Maybe that will answer your questions.