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[Turp]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not defending anyone or any guild. If the raid discussion is anything to go by it seems like there's an appetite from some of the old Class R guilds for another rotation...and believe me, getting dicked on by an inflated zerg guild who trashed the old rotation agreement will only happen again [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it means denying or taking a slice out of A/A's pixels I'm sure they'll consider it's worth it though. Better to have some access to the top content than none right?

We all know you give them the inch , and then they want the mile.

[Turp]

she said*

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Turp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We all know you give them the inch , and then they want the mile.

That's generally the way it goes. Ask Chest.

[bspa0700]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really is kind of crazy when you stop and think about it. None of these dragons were intended to be killed without clearing the trash leading up to them. If they wanted you to skip everything they wouldn't have put see invis mobs in the way. ToV should take HOURS to clear. Instead every dragon dies in less than 5 minutes cause everyone basically exploits game mechanics to bypass playing the game the way it was designed to be played. I don't know about you guys servers but my classic server fought dragons on or very near their spawn point every time.

Just another way this server isn't classic I guess. Meanwhile OMG GET RID OF BUFF TIMERS NOT CLASSIC.

I think you mean "uses". Nobody here established the game mechanics 17 years ago. We are just using the constraints of what exists. Ever heard the phrase, work smarter, not harder?

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by bspa0700 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you mean "uses". Nobody here established the game mechanics 17 years ago. We are just using the constraints of what exists. Ever heard the phrase, work smarter, not harder?

Which it's true if it's work. But it's not. It's the paycheck. Clearing to the mob, killing it and getting something awesome is the actual paycheck. Not just the "something awesome."

It's like wanting some roses and speeding through rose bushes in order to get to the flower shop.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which it's true if it's work. But it's not. It's the paycheck. Clearing to the mob, killing it and getting something awesome is the actual paycheck. Not just the "something awesome."

It's like wanting some roses and speeding through rose bushes in order to get to the flower shop.

Wouldn't clearing to it and killing it be the work and then the "getting something awesome" be the pay check even in your own analogy?

If you can play smarter, and cut that work down to a bare minimum to get the same pay check, why wouldn't you?

[Troubled]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But more to the point - yes Swish is unstable and probably gay

No doubt about that. Cat lover.

[bspa0700]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which it's true if it's work. But it's not. It's the paycheck. Clearing to the mob, killing it and getting something awesome is the actual paycheck. Not just the "something awesome."

It's like wanting some roses and speeding through rose bushes in order to get to the flower shop.

Literally nothing you said makes any sense.

All I was saying is that pulling the way that we do is not exploiting. It's not close to exploiting. It's not glitching. It's not taking advantage of bad pathing. It's using established, working as intended game mechanics. Nobody is sitting here saying that someone else is exploiting see invis to see people who are invis.

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by bspa0700 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Literally nothing you said makes any sense.

All I was saying is that pulling the way that we do is not exploiting. It's not close to exploiting. It's not glitching. It's not taking advantage of bad pathing. It's using established, working as intended game mechanics. Nobody is sitting here saying that someone else is exploiting see invis to see people who are invis.

Working as intended game mechanics . teehee

Do you really think the eq designers had these tactics in mind when they developed the game? Bypassing all the content to get to the boss mobs?

You're playing a bastardised version of your own making that to a lot of us destroys the actual essence of what EQ is.

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wouldn't clearing to it and killing it be the work and then the "getting something awesome" be the pay check even in your own analogy?

If you can play smarter, and cut that work down to a bare minimum to get the same pay check, why wouldn't you?

No, the work is sitting there at the front line waiting to FTE. The very reason a lot of people to play this game is to experience the dungeon crawling experience that results in an awesome kill on a boss with shineys.

Get rid of that FTE battle and 16 hours of waiting and there is no work...because it is a game...where we shouldn't have to work.