Chest's new raid thread is retarded

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by Fire Beetle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're looking to enter a brothel, not pay for the entry fee, and be rewarded like a high paying customer; all while toting a moral high ground.

I value my worth on this server by how much vitriol gets thrown at me when I step into RnF. +1

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Fire Beetle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're looking to enter a brothel, not pay for the entry fee, and be rewarded like a high paying customer; all while toting a moral high ground.

That's not quite how this works. It's more like everybody paid the entrance fee, but a select few continue forcing themselves on the workers after they've used up all their passes. Detoxx is literally raping the server.

[Juevento]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

please recognize that no one thinks what we have is good and the first step to fixing them is bringing all the crap to light.

That actually is the first step to solving issues. I am not sure what world you live in where if you keep your head in the sand, all of your problems will magically go away.

[Fire Beetle]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I value my worth on this server by how much vitriol gets thrown at me when I step into RnF. +1

So vitriol can still be fact. Also you're not denying my accusation. So +2?

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's not quite how this works. It's more like everybody paid the entrance fee, but a select few continue forcing themselves on the workers after they've used up all their passes. Detoxx is literally raping the server.

Detoxx raping the server, literally, when he and the officers of FA notified CSG of a mob they can go for and then defended them when Awakened tried to train over them more than once. But hell facts right?

How exactly is Detoxx and crew raping the server? Playing a 17 year old elf sim to the highest level of competitive edge? This is an argument over perspective.

Sirken even said himself, many times on his stream, that he supports the idea that not everyone got to see all the current content of expansions. Yes, I understand this server is now content locked, so would be true that the guild who can't compete with the competition on the server is suck in the proverbial raid/mob rut.

[Legday]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Detoxx is literally raping the server.

Singling out Detoxx is exactly the kind of toxic thought that is going to keep this conversation from going anywhere.

[Doctor Jeff]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(pro-tip eyeball at zone-in corner pulls phinny add-free to zone in on live or at least did during classic).

that worked on red in the past but is fixed now.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Fire Beetle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Playing a 17 year old elf sim to the highest level of competitive edge? This is an argument over perspective.

My perspective is that you're delusional if you think there's any kind of actual competitive edge to this content. Listening to Detoxx defend his stall tactic on Yelinak and defend his agreement with Awekened on using the tactic made me cringe. That's not competitive edge. That's breaking the rules with collusion not to report each other. And nobody else wants to play that way.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Singling out Detoxx is exactly the kind of toxic thought that is going to keep this conversation from going anywhere.

It would be a fallacy to not allow people to name the perpetrators and the cheaters. Name and shame IMO.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

flood the raid zones and desync until the gm's actually gm. Because this is not about the guilds. It is about the staff not wanting and/or having the balls to manage the server and implement fixes.

Everyone is unhappy with this system. Traditionally, that is when a GM would step in, or, modifications would be made to encounters.

Both of those options were ruled out by Sirken. Basically, telling the high end, "We do not care."

Maybe these guys started working for Daybreak? because they got the attitude down.

[Legday]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It would be a fallacy to not allow people to name the perpetrators and the cheaters. Name and shame IMO.

And reciprocate the same problem you think you're trying to fix.