whats it feel like

[xaxis]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We agree. That's why I advise developing the true spirit rather than trying to reorganize the material plane to line up with the impulsive animal lusts fools mistake for their soul. That true spirit is infinitely adaptable; in that sense it is nothingness.

If you agree than why care so much what she does with her body? The physical is extremely fleeting and all we can know in the present so if changing her body allows her to find the true spirit, why not support it? If she fulfills this desire and finds the emptiness still there then she has still taken another step on the journey and can move on to the next. You should be supporting her attempts to grow and flourish, not trying to suppress them.

[Big_Japan]

Originally Posted by xaxis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if changing her body allows her to find the true spirit, why not support it?

If I believed this were possible, I would without reservation. But the fact is that this is a direction only someone who were desperately confused and in danger would walk in, and the effects are irreversible. Not to say that it's impossible for it to be one of many trials on a path to enlightenment -- only that it's a trial from which only bad things including death can result. The only good that could possibly come of it is realizing what a fool's errand it is and surviving.

Originally Posted by xaxis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If she fulfills this desire and finds the emptiness still there then she has still taken another step on the journey and can move on to the next.

This is the scenario I wish were guaranteed to play out.

Transitioning isn't something you can just do and undo. The sky-high suicide rate on postop trannies isn't indicative of a good proportion of people surviving that trauma and journeying further toward the light. This is an irreversible step, and distinct from legitimate methods of pursuing happiness in that regard.

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't understand how you can be opposed to gatekeepers when you accept that there are people who begin transition impulsively or for the wrong reasons. Are you opposed to gatekeepers for addictive narcotics too? Those don't even necessarily have permanent effects.

I don't advocate trying to be a tyrant and control peoples lives and I don't sit here worrying about them or what they may or may not do. These people are a minority and if they didn't do this it would be something else. You can't change the spirit of people or their destiny or their karma.

Originally Posted by xaxis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you agree than why care so much what she does with her body? The physical is extremely fleeting and all we can know in the present so if changing her body allows her to find the true spirit, why not support it? If she fulfills this desire and finds the emptiness still there then she has still taken another step on the journey and can move on to the next. You should be supporting her attempts to grow and flourish, not trying to suppress them.

Agreed. You are on point.

I questioned "why" it mattered so much. Why this might be a quest. Why I couldn't just be the way I was. I didn't understand. I can't really explain it. But I know this is right. And it feels right. It's like being without resistance. I don't know how to explain it....

But I think I get where BJ's buddhist is coming from it's just taken to an extreme. I know there's some monks that go out into the woods with nothing but their robes and journey for their spirtuality....

Fine, I wasn't and am not that being. I'm "Me (Name redacted)" on a journy to express my beauty and understand what it means to be a woman.

To talk about spirituality, I don't know why exactly... I was born trans. Perhaps because I wouldn't have "lived" if I was born nataly a woman? I have no idea. That doesn't change what I am now and who I am going to be and who I yearn to be.

People grow and evolve, the physical reflects that it's ok to be FREE to change the physical. It only changes when the spiritual side allows it. If you open your heart to an idea you can make it come true by simply looking at that idea and learning and having the universe provide opportunities...

I can't profess to really understand how the universe works. But I'm not really "on drugs" like you think. Being subjugated or living a sinful life.

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by xaxis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spirit is everything. Physicality is nothing.

The physical reflects the spiritual. Don't judge my spirituality on my physicality. My physicality is my own spirits to express because the physical is where we interact.

This is the life I'm living now and I wouldn't try to live it differently because I know what my dreams are and that to die knowing I did everything I could to attain my dreams... well that would be better dieing in regret at "surviving because it was totally safe and medically advisable".

Thankfully in my case the gatekeepers deam what I want medically advisable along with me. For a long time this wasn't true.

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My heart and soul wishes I were born a female too. Or a millionaire. Doesn't change the cards I was dealt, and doesn't make poisoning what I was given justifiable. And I make a pretty good male anyway.

Human consciousness is fascinatingly malleable. Drive a car for 6 hours, it changes shape until the car is your body. Spirit is nothingness homie.

If your happy for yourself and like who you are then transition is really probably not for you. Me and you are totally different animals. I'm glad that you are happy. I truly am. I'm not trying to push you or anyone else to do something they don't want to do.

But your like arguing that nothing in this world matters except your own personal justification for how you are now... despite how you were born or what you want.

FYI, I don't "wish I was born female" i was born female...... FML

Just because we are from different worlds doesn't mean we can't care for each other :P

[Big_Japan]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because we are from different worlds doesn't mean we can't care for each other :P

of course i love u gurl, i love everyone on this board except staff who make light of people's deaths. And i hope you turn out great. don't take it backhandedly when i say you appear to be progressing well for someone transitioning at your age.

Ur going to be making a whole lot of Tyrones ejaculate prematurely milady.

[Big_Japan]

I don't understand how you can be opposed to gatekeepers when you accept that there are people who begin transition impulsively or for the wrong reasons. Are you opposed to gatekeepers for addictive narcotics too? Those don't even necessarily have permanent effects.

[Pokesan]

imo trannies don't have souls [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

neither does anyone else though

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

imo trannies don't have souls [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

neither does anyone else though

Gingers don't either and my pubes are red as fuck. So die in a fire everyone.

Ohhh I like the hidden text.

[barrettdc1]

how did this thread devolve into hating on maer for being a tranny. who honestly gives a fuck? I know I don't. People can do whatever the fuck they want to themselves. If it's not harming me and my way of life, I don't give a fuck.