Do Not Engage: Warriors Vs. PALs/SHDs

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by Estu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OK, but I still don't really understand what you're saying. For how many weapons is DEX effective? At what DEX value does it stop making a difference for proc rates?

Originally Posted by Wandor from The Steel Warrior

For mainhand weapons:
305 DEX - 2.0 ppm
205 DEX - 1.5 ppm
105 DEX - 1.0 ppm

For offhand weapons:
105 DEX = .5 proc/min
205 DEX = .75 proc/min
305 DEX = 1 proc/min

This information reflects the way things worked on live in the PoP era, although consensus on the boards there was that the mechanic had not changed up to that point. Of course, that was on live. I have no guarantee that the eqemu code duplicates this accurately.

Also, there were a small number of weapons (less than 50) that had an additional modifier on them to make them proc more or less than this standard rate. However, none of them were in classic iirc.

[Duma]

Hmm, I didn't know offhand had a different table for procs than main hand. If anything I thought it would be higher than MH to make up for the fact offhand swings less due to dual wield.

Nice find.

[Noselacri]

Technically it isn't mitigation because there is still a small chance you can be hit for a certain amount of damage. But that's nitpicking.

Mitigation is just a word that means lessened severity. There's no rule saying it has to be guaranteed or follow a specific scaling formula or anything. If it's a mechanic whose sole function is to reduce individual instances of damage, it's mitigation. But yeah, it's nitpicking.

[Folkar]

Reading through this thread has me excited to start playing P99 and re-roll my old warrior. As for high proc rate weapons, I don't recall any from classic, however a few of them were in Kunark. (Blade of the Black Dragon Eye for example)

As to the warrior vs knight in groups? I think someone hit the nail on the head with the comment of whichever is closest to the group is the best choice. However, a solid group will adjust to either type of tank and be successful.

[Crone]

Originally Posted by Dumesh Uhl'Belk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This information reflects the way things worked on live in the PoP era, although consensus on the boards there was that the mechanic had not changed up to that point. Of course, that was on live. I have no guarantee that the eqemu code duplicates this accurately.

Also, there were a small number of weapons (less than 50) that had an additional modifier on them to make them proc more or less than this standard rate. However, none of them were in classic iirc.

Where does a SSoY line up in those proc per minute numbers?

Thanks.

[Mardur]

Weapons generally proc more on emu, so it's not really worth drudging up old classic findings.

[Cars]

The way weapons proc on P99 feel classic to me. I played on live when it launched and sometimes my Ghoulbane would proc like 4 times in a row and sometimes it wouldnt proc for an entire mob. Which is exactly what happens here. The whole procs per minute ratio just make me happy I didnt keep playing when luclin came out.

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by Crone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where does a SSoY line up in those proc per minute numbers?

Thanks.

SSoY had no modifier to the basic proc rate.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Warriors suck in classic. In Kunark they get epics and the defensive discipline.

Fatty shadowknight is the best tank in classic.

[Ethanblack]

Step one. Warrior AND Pally/Sk in the same group.

Pally pulls and builds aggro, Warrior taunts off of Pally/SK when hate is established. Warrior then stays on top.

Winrar.