Rules Decent Players should abide by...

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by theaetatus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People need to stop acting like NBG is some sort of ideal or fair system, or even something to aspire to. It isn't. It is inherently unfair unless the camp you are at has an equal chance of dropping useable loot of the same value for all classes.

I can't think of any such camps, unless all of the items from the camp are All/All in which case NBG is irrelevant.

It's not about fairness. inherently or otherwise.

[Riotgirl]

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[Jimjam]

Perhaps NBG could mean everyone should get to roll on items because everyone needs cash. Gear can be cashed out and cash can be used to buy gear in EC.

Warriors are the most gear dependant class, ergo warriors should get all loot rights by NBG.

Heard it here first.
Jimjam - Halfling Warrior.

[Champion_Standing]

nbg definitely bs, who cares if I'm wearing a cof and a fungi, I'm rolling on that savants cap!


But seriously if you are on your 9th twink alt and you are demanding to roll on cheap junk against a newbie in rags you are probably scum.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nbg definitely bs, who cares if I'm wearing a cof and a fungi, I'm rolling on that savants cap!


But seriously if you are on your 9th twink alt and you are demanding to roll on cheap junk against a newbie in rags you are probably scum.

It happens..

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

need before greed guys.... need before greed...

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[indiscriminate_hater]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It happens..

what's your definition of need? from the screenshot, it looks like the guy could use a resist neck piece.

you're also not providing any context aside from a guy in mediocre bard gear requesting a solid resist piece. what does the rest of the group have? what is the rest of his gear like? did anyone else in the group "need" it?

it kind of sounds like you're just being a judgmental asshole who's humiliating this person for no good reason, but i know the loveable swish would never stoop that low

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what's your definition of need? from the screenshot, it looks like the guy could use a resist neck piece.

you're also not providing any context aside from a guy in mediocre bard gear requesting a solid resist piece. what does the rest of the group have? what is the rest of his gear like? did anyone else in the group "need" it?

it kind of sounds like you're just being a judgmental asshole who's humiliating this person for no good reason, but i know the loveable swish would never stoop that low

Can afford css but not 50pp neck sounds legit

[Champion_Standing]

The fact of the matter is that most people support looting rules that benefit them. At low levels established players are usually willing to let poor newbies take the trash because for many of them selling something worth less than 100pp isn't worth the effort.

It's when you start getting valuable items that people's attitudes change. I've seen people roll on everything one night then freak out the next night when someone else does the same. I've seen someone beg for help to camp an fbss for example, who got help and was given the fbss come along the next week when someone else wanted to camp something then demanding to roll when it dropped.

It's all bout that pixel greed bb's

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can afford css but not 50pp neck sounds legit

[Swish]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what's your definition of need? from the screenshot, it looks like the guy could use a resist neck piece.

you're also not providing any context aside from a guy in mediocre bard gear requesting a solid resist piece. what does the rest of the group have? what is the rest of his gear like? did anyone else in the group "need" it?

it kind of sounds like you're just being a judgmental asshole who's humiliating this person for no good reason, but i know the loveable swish would never stoop that low

You missed me saying you can get a +9 MR necklace if you really need the MR? Bards don't need str.

If I see a guy twinked to the teeth trying to call "need" on MM loot then something's up. This is one of the things wrong with the server. Just out of the picture is a shaman in rags.

In a separate group last week we handed out a froggie robe that dropped in disco to a mage in an advisor robe... that's how we should be playing. Not calling need on stuff we'll either barely use or are straight up going to hit the tunnel with afterwards.