PnP Rules - Changes or Removal Necessary - GMs Please Read

[Guido]

Originally Posted by Luniz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its the lnser's responsibility to let everyone know what hes doing

that means checking /who every 2 seconds and repeating your LNS message if you see a new name

not waiting until someone finds you and then saying "oh i was hoping to squeak by without calling it, but im LNS enjoy your ban"

holy shit retti I never knew you could post such truth

im appauled atm

[Luniz]

Originally Posted by Guido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

holy shit retti I never knew you could post such truth

im appauled atm

nice 2 meet you paul

[grannock]

Originally Posted by Guido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

holy shit retti I never knew you could post such truth

im appauled atm

How do you, as the LNS'r verify that people in the zone saw your message? This part of the policy is impossible to enforce, so it is on the burden of the pker to check if someone is on lns. If you haven't figured this out by now, you are prolly taking a vacation for violating lns.

[Guido]

Originally Posted by grannock [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How do you, as the LNS'r verify that people in the zone saw your message? This part of the policy is impossible to enforce, so it is on the burden of the pker to check if someone is on lns. If you haven't figured this out by now, you are prolly taking a vacation for violating lns.

/shout is used for zone-wide message

that's what pnp rules state you do if a new player enters your zone and you are lnsing

revy fails to follow pnp rules. submits a petition with SS. guido suspended.

AND GMs wonder why population here is lower than it should be. un fucking real.

[FaithlessKR]

Not everyone has /who bound to a key they use regularly. I went through live for over 6 years without ever doing it, and most of my time on red99 also.

While I also believe that in the spirit of the rules, it should be the person on lns to be responsible to check the zone and shout lns for every new person entering, it's also understandable to not do it more than once in a 10 second period of time. Andis said he logged in, and within 10 seconds attacked a naked Revy.

There's a chance that revy had checked who shortly before andis logged in and saw nobody and continued to his corpse. If the next time he goes to check who he's already being attacked, then shouting LNS will do absolutely nothing for him.

As we all know, calling LNS after you've already been attacked will do absolutely nothing for you and you will just die. And on a corpse run like one to seb that can take forever if you're not bound in Kunark, it can leave you pretty salty.

I don't really fault either side of this situation for their reaction, and like Colgate said the rules need to be revamped into something more manageable since there are no GM's on red to police these situations.

[Guido]

someone doesn't get what is going on

its ok max

move along

[grannock]

Being naked has everything to do with it, if you didn't kill naked people, you wouldn't violate lns, you wouldn't be banned. Dunno why the server has to change rules to allow you to farm naked peeps.

I called lns seb other day, zoned in, rezynn was at the zone in, apparently he missed it. He spammed "on LNS?" like 5 times, i said ya, we didn't have a problem. I mean seriously, you are a good enough rogue to wait 2 seconds to verify lns before crushing a naked toon, try it sometime.

Murk died in KC yesterday, he looted, left, I logged in, hes sitting outside of KC fully geared. I attack, he says LNS. I backed off, he still threatened to report me cause he was salty from being pked, but I didn't kill him again, and I didn't violate any rules.

Learn to play with lns or be banned, not really seeing your point here.

[Wrench]

Originally Posted by grannock [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Murk died in KC yesterday, he looted, left, I logged in, hes sitting outside of KC fully geared. I attack, he says LNS. I backed off, he still threatened to report me cause he was salty from being pked, but I didn't kill him again, and I didn't violate any rules.

shoulda killed him, sounds like he wasnt on lns anymore

[Purp]

petition, making threads like this never does any good.

[Guido]

my petition got deleted once I quoted the pnp rules

go figure.