RMT Again

[Trazic]

Originally Posted by Doil_Boil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rogean: "I came this close to disbanding Dark Winter. Never before have I seen so many dirty whistles. "

Yup, nothing at all wrong there.

I mean... I can only speak for myself. I don't really know them that well just joined randomly when I grouped with them in MM the other day. But what I can say is that it is possible to have a low level twink that isn't in a raiding guild.

So don't go persecuting people with no evidence. In any case I trust that Rogean knows what he is doing when he bans people.

[Doil_Boil]

Originally Posted by Trazic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean... I can only speak for myself. I don't really know them that well just joined randomly when I grouped with them in MM the other day. But what I can say is that it is possible to have a low level twink that isn't in a raiding guild.

So don't go persecuting people with no evidence. In any case I trust that Rogean knows what he is doing when he bans people.

I'm not persecuting anyone or making any assumptions about any guilds. However, there are ways of telling RMTers from regular twinks. When a cleric has horrible gear in just about every spot and an epic, it isn't that hard to figure out.

That said, I've grouped with many members of DW in the past couple weeks and as a whole they've been very decent folks. Just an unusual number of obvious RMT. No need for me to sugarcoat that, it's been confirmed by the guy who runs the server.

[justinedwardperry]

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[typhonset]

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[Rogean]

I came this close to disbanding Dark Winter. Never before have I seen so many dirty whistles.

[Trazic]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dirty whistles.

What does this even mean? I googled and it's not helping. If you just mean bad people or douches, that is shocking considering how nice they seem on the surface. Always giving away noob gear to the new players there and helping each other out.

[botrainer]

Originally Posted by Trazic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What does this even mean? I googled and it's not helping. If you just mean bad people or douches, that is shocking considering how nice they seem on the surface. Always giving away noob gear to the new players there and helping each other out.

Great cover giving away 400pp or less items while rmting 1000M K Pp on the side has to be good! waitttttt

[Raijingeki]

This Dark Winter call out could have been handled more... Professionally, to be blunt. As the server management, you can call all the shots and enforce the rules and we as players have to respect that. But your wording made it seem like a personal attack towards the guild and it certainly had an effect on some of the members.

The fact that you made this public knowledge has now given us the reputation of <RMT Winter>, even though not every single member of the guild supports RMT. A lot of us are unhappy about those who have been caught had done. You're basically giving everyone firing ammo to be negative towards the guild, which can technically lead to verbal abuse from others; something frowned upon according to the Project 1999 Guidebook.

Yes, you can argue that the guild should know more about its players and not invite everyone and anyone. That "the leadership of a guild is responsible for ensuring that all of their members are abiding by the Project 1999 rules. Frequent or Reoccuring violations by members or the guild as whole could result in the guild being disbanded and/or possible action against the leadership." But it's nearly impossible to know every little thing another player does in terms of something like this! People can lie about what they do and we as players do not have tools that server moderators do.

Am I appreciative of what you've done for the server in terms of cleaning up? Yes. You are doing your job as management to keep the server running and making sure the players are being held accountable.

Nimmanu had said it best; "And so you understand more clearly, I do not defend what any RMT'r does. I feel betrayed by those who actually did that. I feel very angry that they would join our guild and do that." We all do. Hell, it's something we've all been talking about this evening because we aren't happy about being name and shamed for those who put us in this uncomfortable situation.

Perhaps next time, as a suggestion, you could manage damage control and speak with the guild leader if this situation does happen again (for Dark Winter or anyone else) to minimize this kind of effect?

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going back to my drumming.

-Eli(jah)wood

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Raijingeki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This Dark Winter call out could have been handled more... Professionally, to be blunt.

stopped reading at this point. your whistles were dirty and rogean does not owe you a goddamn thing in the first place anyway.

[Zheta]

People BUY PLATINUM on this server?? Wat.

Anyway, good work GMs!