What attitudes and philosophies do you hate in P1999?

[Decad]

Originally Posted by Mentathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hate having to look up prices in the wiki, then get told that they want 100pp for an item listed as 30pp.

If you want 100pp, why not just tell people so they can ignore you?

Also, the auction tracker which lists the prices for the wiki only works because people quote their asking price in /auc.

Or people who try to low ball you on an item price so they can try to flip it. And when you tell them your prices ( which is already close to wiki), they start to act like you are being a fool

[Decad]

People who play a powerful class ( eg shaman, enchanter) that is both group and solo friendly whining about their class being underprivileged and deserve better treatment.

[Paleman]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2) people who put prices in their auctions thinking it will sell the item quicker (hint: it won't!)
3) people who use the words guy, bro, pal, or friend.

I'm not your friend, guy.

hey bropal, newsflash. it does sell things faster for you. It tells the buyer what you are looking for in terms of price and sets a starting point for negotiating a final price. It also helps people that dont want to look up the going price rate for every item that you are selling.

[Rayzor84]

Immature players refusing to group with u/crying so a group won't take u over personal issues. Especially when that person got called out previously for camp stealing and training yet somehow I'm in the wrong. Seems like more child mentality in p1999 than in live during the same era. Said dude also gets kicked out of his guild for poor conduct and brags that he's joining Asgard now lmao.

Good luck with that when u can't resolve stupid issues for the good of a group. Strong endgame guild material.

Shit sorry repost, other post didn't show up for me until now and gave me errors.

[August]

Originally Posted by Paleman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hey bropal, newsflash. it does sell things faster for you. It tells the buyer what you are looking for in terms of price and sets a starting point for negotiating a final price. It also helps people that dont want to look up the going price rate for every item that you are selling.

You are everything wrong with the box! /s

Also I'm not quite sure how this is a legit thread. This is basically 'List what you hate about the box' and people who are among the list saying 'Nu uh! I'm right and YOU'RE Wrong! Let's fight about it!'. Nothing constructive is happening here, only people getting butthurt because they have been putting prices in their auctions for so long and are only now realizing how dumb they are.

[Paleman]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are everything wrong with the box! /s

Also I'm not quite sure how this is a legit thread. This is basically 'List what you hate about the box' and people who are among the list saying 'Nu uh! I'm right and YOU'RE Wrong! Let's fight about it!'. Nothing constructive is happening here, only people getting butthurt because they have been putting prices in their auctions for so long and are only now realizing how dumb they are.

this is a legit thread because someone started a new thread and pressed submit, nothing more.

also whats dumber? Arguing about peoples attitudes in an old game or arguing about how people argue over an old game?

I'd rather have the whole " the way they destroyed the death star is pretty implausible" arguement.

the point is, trees.

[DarkwingDuck]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) Powerleveling
2) people who put prices in their auctions thinking it will sell the item quicker (hint: it won't!)
3) people who use the words guy, bro, pal, or friend.

I'm not your friend, guy.

I'm pretty sure they include the price so they don't need to see the 6 messages saying how much? People can offer or not now, bro

[August]

Originally Posted by DarkwingDuck [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty sure they include the price so they don't need to see the 6 messages saying how much? People can offer or not now, bro

I really don't want to go into it, but no.

Player 1 auctions, WTS HBC 3k
Player 2 auctions, WTS HBC 2.9k
Player 1 auctions, WTS HBC 2.8k!!!

this is what i'm talking about. If you are someone who sells something at a set price constantly putting your auctions in your price is a deathknell to your margins because the secondary market will come in and undercut you publically all the time. Since we track auctions here this results in people wanting the secondary market prices on your goods, which makes it not worthwhile.

Furthermore people like the tunnel because they like to haggle and feel like they win. If you put your actual price for an item in the auction you're just a plain idiot. The ratio of people giving me my asking price versus trying to haggle me down is on the upside of 10:1.

Again, people do different things for different reasons. But, if you think that putting your price in an auction is going to sell something QUICKER, you're just wrong.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really don't want to go into it, but no.

Player 1 auctions, WTS HBC 3k
Player 2 auctions, WTS HBC 2.9k
Player 1 auctions, WTS HBC 2.8k!!!

this is what i'm talking about. If you are someone who sells something at a set price constantly putting your auctions in your price is a deathknell to your margins because the secondary market will come in and undercut you publically all the time. Since we track auctions here this results in people wanting the secondary market prices on your goods, which makes it not worthwhile.

Furthermore people like the tunnel because they like to haggle and feel like they win. If you put your actual price for an item in the auction you're just a plain idiot. The ratio of people giving me my asking price versus trying to haggle me down is on the upside of 10:1.

Again, people do different things for different reasons. But, if you think that putting your price in an auction is going to sell something QUICKER, you're just wrong.

I find it pretty random really. Sometimes putting up prices moves shit quicker, sometimes just listing item gets immediate inquiries. Listing a price seems to work pretty well most of the time with items that are semi-rare or have an obvious floor.

Also, having a set price is good if you just log your EC trader occasionally for 10-15 minutes. Run your auctions a few times... no buyers? nothing you want to buy? get on a different char and leave the spam behind. If somebody wants what you have and is just hoping for a better price, they'll often buy later that day or the next.

[edit]And I always stop selling the particular item or just bail out of EC when shit like that HBC example happens, you won't lose to the con if you don't play the shell game.[/edit]

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Furthermore people like the tunnel because they like to haggle and feel like they win. If you put your actual price for an item in the auction you're just a plain idiot. The ratio of people giving me my asking price versus trying to haggle me down is on the upside of 10:1.

Again, people do different things for different reasons. But, if you think that putting your price in an auction is going to sell something QUICKER, you're just wrong.

To your last statement, it depends on the price. If you auction something at a discount it most certainly will sell more quickly. If you auction at a premium then it will make less difference, because many players will assume that if you are not advertising a price then you must be looking t sell at a premium and will not bother messaging. Those whom curiosity gets the best of will inquire the price, but will not bither to haggle because they will understand the two of you are too far apart. By blind auctioning you are really just limiting the size of your market to those who most desire the item and those who are uneducated about it.

As long as knowledge is available of the item's greater market value this method will be slower on average the lower your price is. The higher hour price is, the less difference it will make ^^