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Old 12-17-2014, 01:43 PM
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Wish people would do some research before saying stupid shit like "Sony will shut the server down if people RMT".

It's so fucking dumb it makes my head spin.

As long as the server admins aren't the ones RMTing, Sony ain't doing SHIT morans.
So then why is it not allowed? It's the only reason that I can think of other than not classic.
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Old 12-17-2014, 01:48 PM
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So then why is it not allowed? It's the only reason that I can think of other than not classic.
RMT is very classic. Ebay much? ~2k for level 50 geared characters.

Who cares what the reasons are? It's against the rules, shouldn't be a fucking debate about why. Respect the wishes of the owner of the server and don't do it, bout all that needs to be said.
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Old 12-17-2014, 01:57 PM
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RMT is very classic. Ebay much? ~2k for level 50 geared characters.

Who cares what the reasons are? It's against the rules, shouldn't be a fucking debate about why. Respect the wishes of the owner of the server and don't do it, bout all that needs to be said.
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Old 12-17-2014, 02:05 PM
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RMT is very classic. Ebay much? ~2k for level 50 geared characters.

Who cares what the reasons are? It's against the rules, shouldn't be a fucking debate about why. Respect the wishes of the owner of the server and don't do it, bout all that needs to be said.
Uggh, missed the point. I know you COULD rmt your shit way back when but if Sony found out they'd ban your account. I also agree that rmt is horrible for the server but I was wondering why the gms are against it.
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Old 12-17-2014, 03:06 PM
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I also agree that rmt is horrible for the server but I was wondering why the gms are against it.
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Old 12-17-2014, 03:34 PM
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RMT is very classic. Ebay much? ~2k for level 50 geared characters.

Who cares what the reasons are? It's against the rules, shouldn't be a fucking debate about why. Respect the wishes of the owner of the server and don't do it, bout all that needs to be said.
Until ebay started removing those auctions and banned them due to sony contacting them and forcing them to. That is when playersauction.com was born.

Sony did not care about the rmt as much as the problems it caused them from the CS department and people getting ripped off. That is where their main problem with it came.
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Old 12-17-2014, 03:54 PM
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Until ebay started removing those auctions and banned them due to sony contacting them and forcing them to. That is when playersauction.com was born.

Sony did not care about the rmt as much as the problems it caused them from the CS department and people getting ripped off. That is where their main problem with it came.
Can't believe that I'm saying this but thanks elderan. It looks like the gms don't want rmt because they don't want to enforce the csr part of deals gone bad. Understandable.
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:15 PM
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Until ebay started removing those auctions and banned them due to sony contacting them and forcing them to. That is when playersauction.com was born.

Sony did not care about the rmt as much as the problems it caused them from the CS department and people getting ripped off. That is where their main problem with it came.
The point was to illustrate that RMTing has been around since the birth of the game in 1999, regardless of Sony officially supporting it or not. As you said, PlayerAuctions and a few other sites popped right up in the wake of Ebay complying with Sony's request to pull those auctions (they were never "forced" fyi). Never heard of Sony going after any others after the Ebay incident.

Their viewpoint was that the sales encouraged cheating, created animosity amongst the community and provided an avenue for scammers to sucker people. I'd venture to guess that having an employee creating items on the side to sell for RL cash didn't help either.

Seems logical that Rogean and Co. hold the same opinion.
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:51 PM
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So then why is it not allowed? It's the only reason that I can think of other than not classic.
Elderan answered it pretty well I think, as it applies here the same as it did on live:

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Sony did not care about the rmt as much as the problems it caused them from the CS department and people getting ripped off. That is where their main problem with it came.
I think the biggest evidence of this is that they used to allow account for items/plat/account trades, player run casinos, etc - and now that is all against the rules. People will find a way to fuck each other over if they can, why should the staff here be the ones constantly sorting that garbage out when someone scams someone else?

Plus it's just general human nature to believe something is supported if it isn't stated somewhere explicitly that it isn't. It HAS to be against the rules, even if they truly don't give a shit.
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