Catherins attempt at lawyering

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With VP being FFA and not turning you to Class Neckbeard on repop. Sure.

If you dont see the flaw in your quick to respond quip, you shouldnt try to make new rules.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With no bag limit.

Do you really think the bag limit will matter?

I mean look. If guilds are competing based on legitimate skill then I say to the fastest go the mostest. If you can mobilize and kill 5 mobs before the R guilds then I say to the fastest go the mostest. If your plan is to collude with IB to leave VP for last while you shuffle between camped alts at VS, CT, and Sev and IB shuffles between camped alts at Trakanon, Innoruuk, and Faydedar? Not so much.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you really think the bag limit will matter?

I mean look. If guilds are competing based on legitimate skill then I say to the fastest go the mostest. If you can mobilize and kill 5 mobs before the R guilds then I say to the fastest go the mostest. If your plan is to collude with IB to leave VP for last while you shuffle between camped alts at VS, CT, and Sev and IB shuffles between camped alts at Trakanon, Innoruuk, and Faydedar? Not so much.

No that is not what he meant by imposing no bag limit. Say we drop the bag limit and make VP FFA as well on repops. If Class R guilds(The ones with VP keys) tie up their raid force in VP without ever raiding there competitively then they pretty much assured they are going to watch IB/TMO kill what they want in VP and then move outside of VP and kill what the guilds that didn't go to VP didn't.

This is no offense to Class R guilds wanting to try. It's just by the time they respond to the earthquake and mobilize to VP and try to setup how they plan to setup and pull in there. 3 or 4 of the VP dragons will be dead already. Nexona will be left up last and in cases where everything is FFA will be left alone for the Class R guilds to try to pull and kill while IB and TMO fights for whatever is outside of VP.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then do you support C/R rotation on normal spawns plus FFA repops?

As much as I'd like complete segregation, IB is horribly boring to raid against. They aren't allowed to speak in public channels, whereas class R people are kinda entertaining while you're waiting on a spawn. If we go full rotation, this game will really feel like instanced content with absolutely no reason for guilds to interact with each other.

As far as VP, Class R needs to stay out. The skill level required to pull the zone and not have the literal whole zone kill everyone is a little higher than I'd feel comfortable entrusting with casual guilds in a competitive environment.

[central scrutinizer]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As far as VP, Class R needs to stay out. The skill level required to pull the zone and not have the literal whole zone kill everyone is a little higher than I'd feel comfortable entrusting with casual guilds in a competitive environment.

Just to play devil's advocate...casual/hardcore raiding is probably not any real indication of skill on p99. I myself just play here to do quests I never did on live, and find groups to run up the slacker dps classes I never got to play from 1-60 in the zones that I love and I have no interest (or time) for getting back into raiding (I play for like 2 hours tops in a sitting, if that).

But I pulled the hell out of VP when it was new and a lack of infinite alt armies and (timely) cs involvement made for much higher stakes (also our concerns for contesting went far beyond simply establishing FTE). I could probably still do it in my sleep. Especially with so many CS safety nets protecting me from my opposition, which I never ever saw happen on live, no matter whose pile was getting camped.

There are probably tons of folks on p99 who choose to play casually but do possess the knowledge from live to do everything that you do on p99. Probably far better, because they came up without benefits such as the massive alt armies that p99 has due to it being free and account trading/sharing being allowed for so long, and of course the fact that there is no new ground to break, nobody has to learn as they go, they can just head over to google and find out everything. And technical considerations of course. I imagine raids go a lot smoother here now that pretty much anybody with a remotely modern machine will never have to do things like look at the ground all raid, which was a thing that some people had to do on live.

It's not exactly new content. And vp as it stands on p99 with train rules being enforced and such is probably a pale shadow of real cutthroat vp from live, or even old p99.

[Clark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EqaiivYM6k

[Skew]

Why is this moran not banned for being caught red handed using Autofire?

[Uuruk]

Originally Posted by Skew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is this moran not banned for being caught red handed using Autofire?

Why would it matter honestly?

[Ele]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

kindly back off.

[Lazie]

Guy starts a troll petition not understanding what he needs to petition and what the rules are. Gets called out for it. Tells people they are flaming. I'm confused.