Anita Sarkeesian

[MurrayHead]

The only time Feminist gamers have made any headway into the gaming industry is when they fuck male game developers/Journalists like that Zoe Quinn skank.

They will never effect a triple A title like GTA or CoD because no amount of tumblr posts will make up for the billion of dollars triple A titles make by butchering women.


Enjoy your glut of $5 steam 8bit pixel feminist games but they have almost no sway in big budget video game development.

[Eunomia]

Originally Posted by MurrayHead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but they have almost no sway in big budget video game development.

Not yet...

Women's suffrage in the United States was achieved gradually, at state and local levels during the late 19th century and early 20th century, culminating in 1920 with the passage of the Nineteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which provided: "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex."

Things do change.

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by Grimfan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The message I think that should be taken away from her videos (and I'd rather not talk about her personally because her message actually does have some merit past her personal views) is that it's very possible to enjoy the material that you're experiencing while being critical of it. That's what everyone in this thread appears to be missing, and it's what most of the people that get angry when they watch her videos miss. She explicitly says that there's no problem with enjoying the games that you do, just that sometimes you should look at them through a critical lens instead of just accepting what is put in front of you.

She's probably going to go over the Witcher games at some point, and if anyone has played them they're very overtly sexist, and it's not just in the first Witcher game either, where you collect nude cards of the women that you've managed to seduce. In the second Witcher game there's an option to talk to an Elf woman who talks about how women can be just as powerful as men on the battlefield, they can kill, and they put their lives on the line the same as the other men, but when they exit the battlefield they tend to not be put in leadership roles.

Geralt, can respond in two ways, he can tell her that not very many women share her view, and she responds surprised saying, that in actuality, many women DO share her views, but are too afraid to talk about it. In which Geralt can tell her that she's wrong, and to give up, or to pursue her ideals and become a great leader.

The interesting part about all of this is that while as an Elf she is under a male leader (Ivoreth) but as a member of the army there, she's actually really under a strong female leader (Saskia, a female Knight) who, to legitimize her role as a leader is both described as having a masculine figure with a feminine appearance, and as a virgin. If you walk in the marketplace in Vergen (the city all of this is in) you'll hear tales of her virginity, and you will even hear a dwarf question why her purity means anything in the face of the enemy.

I can honestly say that if I hadn't watched any of the videos that she has put out, I wouldn't be able to effectively understand and cope with the concepts that are shoved at me in this game. I'd just ignore most of this as background filler and walk on. Instead, I really feel her message of critically playing your games, while still enjoying them, is really what people should do.

Anyway, sorry if I broke into the flame war.

Oh so that is what she really means? Thanks to this MAN for stepping up to clarify what this woman is trying to say to us. I guess she is just so dumb that she can't convey her message properly?

Gotta love that old timey good intentioned sexism.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Grimfan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The message I think that should be taken away from her videos (and I'd rather not talk about her personally because her message actually does have some merit past her personal views) is that it's very possible to enjoy the material that you're experiencing while being critical of it. That's what everyone in this thread appears to be missing, and it's what most of the people that get angry when they watch her videos miss. She explicitly says that there's no problem with enjoying the games that you do, just that sometimes you should look at them through a critical lens instead of just accepting what is put in front of you.

She's probably going to go over the Witcher games at some point, and if anyone has played them they're very overtly sexist, and it's not just in the first Witcher game either, where you collect nude cards of the women that you've managed to seduce. In the second Witcher game there's an option to talk to an Elf woman who talks about how women can be just as powerful as men on the battlefield, they can kill, and they put their lives on the line the same as the other men, but when they exit the battlefield they tend to not be put in leadership roles.

Geralt, can respond in two ways, he can tell her that not very many women share her view, and she responds surprised saying, that in actuality, many women DO share her views, but are too afraid to talk about it. In which Geralt can tell her that she's wrong, and to give up, or to pursue her ideals and become a great leader.

The interesting part about all of this is that while as an Elf she is under a male leader (Ivoreth) but as a member of the army there, she's actually really under a strong female leader (Saskia, a female Knight) who, to legitimize her role as a leader is both described as having a masculine figure with a feminine appearance, and as a virgin. If you walk in the marketplace in Vergen (the city all of this is in) you'll hear tales of her virginity, and you will even hear a dwarf question why her purity means anything in the face of the enemy.

I can honestly say that if I hadn't watched any of the videos that she has put out, I wouldn't be able to effectively understand and cope with the concepts that are shoved at me in this game. I'd just ignore most of this as background filler and walk on. Instead, I really feel her message of critically playing your games, while still enjoying them, is really what people should do.

Anyway, sorry if I broke into the flame war.

[Secrets]

Most people don't even know the difference between women's suffrage and women's suffering by a dictionary definition.

Feminists are asking a society of the uneducated to believe in something that puts one half of society on a pedestal. Which they will, because it's explained in a way that makes someone look oppressed and broken. The fact that people will side with the first opinionated idea that comes across their way is not helping, either.

If you had asked a feminist if they support women's suffrage prior to that meme coming out... Most will say, "That's a terrible thing, women shouldn't suffer!"

It's an uneducated democracy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsaFPiXlLNg

[Schwing]

Originally Posted by Tulnavara [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seems relevant.

Possibly the only relevant thing in the thread.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Schwing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Possibly the only relevant thing in the thread.

oh so that guy making videos where he qq about his opinion is ok but she cant?

Guess who video game developers listen to.

[Schwing]

I don't care what Anita Sarkeesian says or does. Previously because I'd never heard of her, presently because I have yet to agree with anything she's said. Key word, "yet," so don't assume I've dismissed her.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Grimfan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The message I think that should be taken away from her videos (and I'd rather not talk about her personally because her message actually does have some merit past her personal views) is that it's very possible to enjoy the material that you're experiencing while being critical of it. That's what everyone in this thread appears to be missing, and it's what most of the people that get angry when they watch her videos miss. She explicitly says that there's no problem with enjoying the games that you do, just that sometimes you should look at them through a critical lens instead of just accepting what is put in front of you.

And that's one line in over half hour of a video. Do you know what she said right after that? "While it may be comfortable to think that we have a personal force field protecting us from outside influences, this is simply not the case. Scholars sometimes call this type of denial the 'third person effect' which is the tendency for people to believe that they are personally immune to media's effects, even if others may be influenced or manipulated." She needlessly tosses around some fancy rhetoric for a while and goes on to say... "In short the more you think you cannot be affected, the more likely you are to be affected".

If you can say with a straight face that you believe a single word of that tripe... I don't even have a response. It's literally pulled from her ass. She got $158,000 to make the video and couldn't credit a single source. See the bullshit with your own two eyes.

The SJWs keep pushing this idea that Anita gets this flack because she's a female. This is incorrect, she gets this flack because she's a liar and a manipulator. She got a ton of flack because she went to 4chan and said "come at me bro" and yet still had to fake her own death threats!

So then you change the tune to "don't concentrate on the lies, concentrate on her message, despite the fact that she's a liar it's a good message overall." The message is full of these same lies. Why do you think a message full of lies is a good message?

"No, ignore the lies. Look at the deeper meaning behind it all!"
The message is based upon a multitude of lies to push an agenda. She's already profited a great deal from that very agenda...

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oh so that guy making videos where he qq about his opinion is ok but she cant?

Guess who video game developers listen to.

Two videos. One full of obvious lies proven time and time again, made with an agenda and money behind it, the other using credible sources to back it up...

She can make a video, that's her right. What's not right is that people take it seriously, that people believe the lies and promote her agenda. That's not right at all.