Lols TMO

[Fael]

The original link was the vs thing. Someone finally posted the fear train at which point I agreed that it was blatant as hell.

I was intentionally trained by several people (FE and Getsome and co) at rage fire.
I lost the kill because of it.

I petitioned with pics and logs and nothing came of it.
Largely because I posted it in rnf. There use to be a file that if you posted in rnf no action would happen.

Regardless. How was bdA hurt here? Non raid setting. Post fear clear. How much time did they lose.
That said. Blatant training is bull shit by itself.

He should be punished accordingly. But six months is laughable. Hell sentenza was banned like a month on his 10th blatant offense.

Dolic

[BigLe2e]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well Dolic wasn't there so I imagine he assumed. I mean what they were doing was a whole zone disruption. Running a kite around other people where simply sitting would get them killed.

To sum up: BDA monopolizes WHOLE ZONE by running a kite around other people where simply sitting would get them killed, yet no one from TMO/GT was killed. TMO manages to find enough mobs not monopolized to accidentally on purpose train/kill BDA raid force. People not there argue in favor of TMO based on assumptions of being there an hour before. So BDA with an hour set back (supposedly) comes in, trains all the good mobs without killing the competition, gets the lewts, and TMO responds in typical troll fashion with trains and RNF speculation. Did I miss anything?

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by BigLe2e [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To sum up: BDA monopolizes WHOLE ZONE by running a kite around other people where simply sitting would get them killed, yet no one from TMO/GT was killed. TMO manages to find enough mobs not monopolized to accidentally on purpose train/kill BDA raid force. People not there argue in favor of TMO based on assumptions of being there an hour before. So BDA with an hour set back (supposedly) comes in, trains all the good mobs without killing the competition, gets the lewts, and TMO responds in typical troll fashion with trains and RNF speculation. Did I miss anything?

You missed the part where our officers tried to make amends and Chest demanded no less than 2 months raid suspension.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by BigLe2e [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To sum up: BDA monopolizes WHOLE ZONE by running a kite around other people where simply sitting would get them killed, yet no one from TMO/GT was killed. TMO manages to find enough mobs not monopolized to accidentally on purpose train/kill BDA raid force. People not there argue in favor of TMO based on assumptions of being there an hour before. So BDA with an hour set back (supposedly) comes in, trains all the good mobs without killing the competition, gets the lewts, and TMO responds in typical troll fashion with trains and RNF speculation. Did I miss anything?

Because we don't petition accidental trains. 2 people did die while sitting during their pull. We don't hold grudges over stuff like that.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You missed the part where our officers tried to make amends and Chest demanded no less than 2 months raid suspension.

2 months as a rebuttal to Unbrella's offer of having Dinacarl pull a raid for us. We offered 2 weeks and that was rebuffed as well.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2 months as a rebuttal to Unbrella's offer of having Dinacarl pull a raid for us. We offered 2 weeks and that was rebuffed as well.

Because a suspension of raid mobs when no raid mobs were involved isn't a reasonable offer. If raid mobs were on the table for a train in fear when nothing is in window whats to stop people from getting a guild suspended over a train in Seb at NG or in KC at LCY when someone in the guild blatantly trains. I mean you actually have to see through the rage to be reasonable here.

[BigLe2e]

Originally Posted by BigLe2e [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did I miss anything?

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You sir are wrong about this. 2 folks died when the pull train of BDA stopped to kill them. You didn't see us petitioning.

Got a fraps, prove it. Or maybe they trained themselves? The TMO monk showed how easy it is to get lost and get people killed when youre madbadorsad. Is that how this works here?

[BigLe2e]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because a suspension of raid mobs when no raid mobs were involved isn't a reasonable offer. If raid mobs were on the table for a train in fear when nothing is in window whats to stop people from getting a guild suspended over a train in Seb at NG or in KC at LCY when someone in the guild blatantly trains. I mean you actually have to see through the rage to be reasonable here.

Dont blatantly train? Problem solved.

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by BigLe2e [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To sum up: BDA monopolizes WHOLE ZONE by running a kite around other people where simply sitting would get them killed, yet no one from TMO/GT was killed. TMO manages to find enough mobs not monopolized to accidentally on purpose train/kill BDA raid force. People not there argue in favor of TMO based on assumptions of being there an hour before. So BDA with an hour set back (supposedly) comes in, trains all the good mobs without killing the competition, gets the lewts, and TMO responds in typical troll fashion with trains and RNF speculation. Did I miss anything?

This is why you are stupid. No one "accidentally on purpose" does anything for one. For two, the fraps were crystal clear. Not to mention I have been at many raids where TMO intentionally trained us then came on here to rule lawyer it into the fucking ground. You sir, deserve a Retard Star Award.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by BigLe2e [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dont blatantly train? Problem solved.

Wasn't me talk to the culprit.