What makes Rangers worse tanks than Shadow Knights or Paladins?

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Xer0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The difference between guitar and eq though is that you get better and develop a skill when playing an instrument, whereas in eq you just get better pixels and better pewpews. You yourself have no gotten better at the game via the development and sharpening of skill-- your character just got more powerful.. (outside of learning what aggro ranges are and being able to avoid mobs-- hardly requires skill, more memorization and attention)That's my biggest grief with RPGs in general, despite my love for the fantasy genre.

say what you will about all the 13 year olds spouting hatespeech in call of duty via xbox, but at least they're developing coordination and reaction time.

Solo challenge doggie. That requires skills! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*edit* wait is this thread about rangers? Soloing as a ranger, that takes skillz.

[Ciroco]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure we will. Level 60 rangers will tank plenty of raid targets.

For precisely 18 seconds before exploding into little ranger bits in a blaze of glory.

Precisely 20 seconds, I hope.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by rangerlive [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Surviving that particular sort of encounter usually depends on how well the handing-off of the target to the main tank goes, I'd say. Which requires some sort of skill, I think.

Depends on if your raid feels you're worth a mallet charge or two or not.

[Frug]

Originally Posted by Xer0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The difference between guitar and eq though is that you get better and develop a skill when playing an instrument, whereas in eq you just get better pixels and better pewpews.

So, when you practice guitar you get better at guitar, but when you practice EQ you get better at EQ and these are different?

Or are you saying that if you were suddenly given the game with level 60 gear you could do as well as someone who played to 60? (That is in fact, what you said.)

Yeah, no.

Guitar may be a HARDER skill (or more meaningful, or whatever), and EQ may be characterized as "pew pew" as you so delightfully like to denigrate it as, but it is still a skill. Useful? No. Difficult? Somewhat, but not really.

But still a skill.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Xer0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So then I'm the only one irritated by the recurring mispelling of the word "loser"???

I am ... but then again I'm also irritated by your misspelling of the word "mispelling" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Xer0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im the most skilled healer in the game, I can otally keep people at full health by sitting in between alt-3

By that logic anyone who can hit CTRL+S and ALT+3 would make an equally good cleric ... but obviously that's not the case. There's skill in deciding when to hit those buttons: if you do it too early you waste mana, and if you do it too late your tank dies. And that assumes you never have to heal anyone else in your group, that no one else in the zone is begging you for a rez, etc.

I'm not saying EQ takes lots of skill, but it definitely does take skill. And if you do something more interesting than a safe group (eg. soloing HS), it can actually take a decent amount of skill.

... still probably less skill than those miniature painters though; that shit is hard.

[Splorf22]

All I know, Pint, is that I have seen a lot of people wipe down at the royals with way more than 5 people. I'm not saying it takes elite gear, but as you say its a great training fight that takes a certain amount of coordination. Most of the players in the R guilds (and a decent fraction of those in the C guilds) prefer to just faceroll their keyboards.

[rangerlive]

Coordination, I think that's a better word to use than "skill".

[Tecmos Deception]

What the hell do you people think "skill" means?

Is anything short of performing complex brain surgery or writing a symphony "just a time sink"?

It takes skill to shoot a free throw. It takes more skill to be a star in the NBA. If it didn't take skill to shoot a free throw, then toddlers would be shooting 100%. Just because there is a difference in degree of difficulty doesn't mean the easier task does not require skill.

[iruinedyourday]

Im leveling an enchanter and went from 16-19 in the basement of Befallen solo... that takes skillllll! I am super proud of my gossamer robe.

I kind of want to put together a level 1-50 solo challenge.. or a 'lowest level named solo challenge' where the goal is kill a named with the lowest level class/base gear in the game.. By base gear I mean maybe at best no better than Sol Ro armor? with player crafted gear for jewelry? I dono... I also think god mode would be all cloth/finesteel/banded - no jewelry. Can you solo nejina as a level 5 necro? is it possible? A sort of P1999 world record thing. It'd all have to be honor based obvs.

anyway, that would def require skill...

I think it'd be fun cus soloing Befallen at 16 I felt there a was very little difference gameplay wise than soloing anything at 55, just variations of themes. At 15 a thermagotist can drop you in about 7 seconds if things go wrong haha

Hey, why'm I posting this in the ranger forum? Maybe they'll turn out to be the king of low level soloing.

I love it when a good thread comes together...

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XD also Tecmos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8w8JUEo1pI

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It takes skill to shoot a free throw. It takes more skill to be a star in the NBA. If it didn't take skill to shoot a free throw, then toddlers would be shooting 100%.

[Pint]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All I know, Pint, is that I have seen a lot of people wipe down at the royals with way more than 5 people. I'm not saying it takes elite gear, but as you say its a great training fight that takes a certain amount of coordination. Most of the players in the R guilds (and a decent fraction of those in the C guilds) prefer to just faceroll their keyboards.

fair enough lol