Why Wizards Are So Bad?

[IzHaN80]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you not suppose to [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
at lev 1 you kill lev 1s
at lev 2 you still kill 1s cause its safer and faster
at lev 3 you can move onto lev 2s
at lev 4 you should still kill 2s
at 5, you can move onto 3s
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Then why i can sit and watch while either my mage or necro can solo yellow con stuff just with the pet beating on them? The power margin doesn't makes any sense. I should be able to beat lvl 4 stuff at level 4.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by IzHaN80 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then why i can sit and watch while either my mage or necro can solo yellow con stuff just with the pet beating on them? The power margin doesn't makes any sense. I should be able to beat lvl 4 stuff at level 4.

Because EQ isn't perfectly balanced in every way, as I know has been mentioned in this thread already. "Should" doesn't mean shit on a server that is intended to more-or-less recreate oldschool EQ as it was back in the day. You wanna complain about what kind of balance "should" happen in an MMO? Then go play a modern MMO.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by IzHaN80 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then why i can sit and watch while either my mage or necro can solo yellow con stuff just with the pet beating on them? The power margin doesn't makes any sense. I should be able to beat lvl 4 stuff at level 4.

It evens out at around lvl 34 when wizards can start killing 4 mobs at a time and mages have to split exp with their pet or waste a lot of mana to get full exp.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No shit Wizards are good for single-target raids. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about how a Wizard does during the REST of their gameplay, aka 99% of the time that most people put into playing their character.

The skill system in Guild Wars is the ideal, as it makes each skill/spell potentially valuable for any level and you choose skills based upon what you want to do and what you have the skill to execute the best.

You might be surprised, but leveling to 60 is the minority of time many people here spend on their character. 3-4 months to get to 60 your first time, maybe? Add or subtract time based on how much playtime you have. But yeah, wizards are good at raiding and soloing. It's a specialist class that doesn't excel at much else, but they are very good at those two things. If raiding / quads aren't fun for you, you would be much happier on a different class.

Also, we just found the game you should be playing. Have fun.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by IzHaN80 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I should be able to beat lvl 4 stuff at level 4.

Actually it should be difficult to beat something equal to your level. That makes sense. What makes no sense in EQ, and makes the game much more tedious and skewed towards farming, is that a Level 4 target gives 78% more exp than a Level 3 target, but a Level 53 target gives only 4% more exp than a Level 52 target. The game rewards you less and less for killing difficult targets as you level AND targets continually get more and more difficult in relation to player level as you move past the mid levels! It's stupid.

[Cecily]

Maybe you'd prefer something with quest driven leveling. I hear those games are fun.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You might be surprised, but leveling to 60 is the minority of time many people here spend on their character. 3-4 months to get to 60 your first time, maybe?

The game doesn't stop when you get to 60. The "farming" continues because people need to continuously clear out Hate/Fear/Sky or wherever else for drops. This is what should be described as "typical" high-end play and Wizards are absolute shit at it. These mobs all have tons of HP and require constant pulls to burn through them all and have a chance of getting the loot. Not only are Wizards poor because DPS is what really matters, and Wizards do far lower sustained DPS than melee, but they are also poor because their burst damage means virtually nothing. Like I've said before, they can't handle a single add on their own by blowing through their mana bar. All they can do is help push damage on the primary target, just like everyone else.

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But yeah, wizards are good at raiding and soloing. It's a specialist class that doesn't excel at much else, but they are very good at those two things. If raiding / quads aren't fun for you, you would be much happier on a different class.

You've missed the point entirely. When people play an MMORPG and want to play a "Wizard", they want to play a character who can NUKE targets while grouping, in a meaningful way, throughout the duration of the time they play that character. Spell casting damage is something that tons of people find very fun. In EQ, spell casting damage becomes worse and worse as you move past the low levels. An entire archtype of RPG character becomes a joke

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, we just found the game you should be playing. Have fun.

Nope. The game I want to play is something that does not exist and probably will never exist unless I'm suddenly surrounded by a talented design team to make a prototype and then someone funds millions and millions of dollars to bring the best MMORPG to date into existence.

[stonez138]

Originally Posted by IzHaN80 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then why i can sit and watch while either my mage or necro can solo yellow con stuff just with the pet beating on them? The power margin doesn't makes any sense. I should be able to beat lvl 4 stuff at level 4.

If it makes you feel better you'll get more xp killing a blue mob then a pet class does killing a yellow if their pet does all the damage. A lot more.

[Cecily]

Personally, I don't find spell casting fun. I do really love backstabbing people who do. I wish I wasn't so invested in blue, because I'd like to PK a sitting wizard with ragebringer just once.

[Potus]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Personally, I don't find spell casting fun. I do really love backstabbing people who do. I wish I wasn't so invested in blue, because I'd like to PK a sitting wizard with ragebringer just once.

You could probably get a Rogue to 60 and get an epic in less than a month on red. Just need a couple of people to duo/group with.