Best item

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Inny sword from potime > epic.

Hydrotha Mask > Epic too.

Bard epic is solid. But I not quite Cleric epic level.

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bard epic is solid. But I not quite Cleric epic level.

Cleric epic just saves mana (time) and casts a spell already available to the player. Not sure how you can even begin the compare that to the 1.8 singing mod on this server (e.g. no PoTime items & resists >255).

[Daldaen]

Because the time allows you to do more. If you removed cleric epics from game for a week and removed bard epics from game for a week... What do you think would happen in each scenario?

And yes, as you point out, one of the reasons bard epic is quite valuable here is because we have a non classic Resist system.

[deadlycupcakez]

what is the donals nerf going to be?

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cleric epic just saves mana (time) and casts a spell already available to the player. Not sure how you can even begin the compare that to the 1.8 singing mod on this server (e.g. no PoTime items & resists >255).

Also remember, the cleric epic is clickable at lvl 50. The 96% res it casts is not avail to clerics until lvl 56!

So the cleric epic allows for lvl 50 clerics to res as if they are lvl 56 and do it manaless.


Its so important its not even worth listing/mentioning bc its beyond putting on a list.

its like talking about air we breath and how great it is to have avail.

[Mercurial]

Damn all this talk about SK's and Druids make me want to roll one so bad lol

[quido]

Spell: Complete Healing

[Mercurial]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spell: Complete Healing

Technically speaking yes this is the best item lol

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its so important its not even worth listing/mentioning bc its beyond putting on a list.

idk, I still disagree. The only time a cleric epic is really game changing for a raid is on a wipe. 99% of the time on this server, if you wipe, you're losing the mob anyway. Outside of raiding, sure epic saves you a couple minutes of medding, but how often does that change anything aside from saving a couple minutes? On a full raid wipe a cleric epic reduces time, but it doesn't make the raid any more effective at killing the mob, and the number of times on this server that a full raid has wiped, recovered and still gotten the mob has to be way less than 5% of all raids.

On the other hand, almost every single raid mob in the game has some sort of AE. An epic bard is able to push 187 MR to the raid, which is pretty game changing on ~80% of the encounters currently on the server.

Cleric epic is definitely helpful, it just isn't game changing in very many scenarios when compared to bard epic.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cleric epic is definitely helpful, it just isn't game changing in very many scenarios when compared to bard epic.

Because these arguments are mostly opinion, we can agree to disagree on most.

However, the cleric epic gives lvl 50 clerics the ability to res as if they are lvl 56 and it cost nothing but a click.

That is insanely powerful.


I agree bard epic is one of the best epics out there hands down, no rebuttal there.