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Old 04-04-2014, 05:01 PM
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If you can do something for someone that really needs it. Like give food products to starving families, but you don't because somewhere down the line it might affect your stock portfolio, is greed. What else would you call it?
Rational self-interest that enables and perpetuates a modern standard of living for the largest number of people possible under the capitalist model.

If Costco decided to just up and waste the food that'd be one thing, and yes, it'd be stupid. However, after looking it up, it appears that Costco's refusal to distribute / sell comes from a salmonella concern.

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My buying food for my family to eat does not absolve corporations for making purely monetary decisions like dumping food instead of feeding people.
When you walk past a starving homeless person do you give them the money in your wallet? When that runs out, do you give them all the money in your checking account? It seems that you're making a purely monetary decision. You make these decisions every day. The moment you withhold something for your self that is not essential to your staying alive, you make a decision similar to what has been done. Yes, if you buy food simply to waste it that is bad. But if you've got an economic justification for your actions, it begins to make sense in the aggregate.

I noticed you've missed some of my earlier posts. As I wrote above, donated clothing often decimates local textile industries. In that case, yes, it can often be better to dump the material. While one or two people might freeze if you dump, hundreds might freeze if the local textiles industry went under.
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Old 04-04-2014, 05:10 PM
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Rational self-interest that enables and perpetuates a modern standard of living for the largest number of people possible under the capitalist model.

If Costco decided to just up and waste the food that'd be one thing, and yes, it'd be stupid. However, after looking it up, it appears that Costco's refusal to distribute / sell comes from a salmonella concern.



When you walk past a starving homeless person do you give them the money in your wallet? When that runs out, do you give them all the money in your checking account? It seems that you're making a purely monetary decision. You make these decisions every day. The moment you withhold something for your self that is not essential to your staying alive, you make a decision similar to what has been done. Yes, if you buy food simply to waste it that is bad. But if you've got an economic justification for your actions, it begins to make sense in the aggregate.

I noticed you've missed some of my earlier posts. As I wrote above, donated clothing often decimates local textile industries. In that case, yes, it can often be better to dump the material. While one or two people might freeze if you dump, hundreds might freeze if the local textiles industry went under.
No. I buy the homeless person a sandwich. And I don't feel.guilty about not emptying my bank account for him. I rarely have more money than I need for food/bills. I'm not enjoying excess while other people starve. And the peanut butter in question was not contaminated. It was produced after the salmonella scare was over from the info I read in an interview with the companies president.
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I noticed you've missed some of my earlier posts. As I wrote above, donated clothing often decimates local textile industries. In that case, yes, it can often be better to dump the material. While one or two people might freeze if you dump, hundreds might freeze if the local textiles industry went under.
Textile factories closing down because of thrift stores?? Hmmm. Nope. Textile factories close down in America because there are Cambodian children that are easy to exploit.
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Look, how does the "right" number of oranges get to a mom & pop grocer on Manhattan Island so that they have enough to satisfy everyone who wants to buy one yet not have too many so that they don't make a profit? An orange that came from a huge plantation in Florida, semitrailored to a warehouse in New Jersey, and shipped via a produce truck through the busy streets. Are mom & pop New Yorker dastardly geniuses of supply chain management? If so they are the ones starving children in the Sudan and you have your guilty party.
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Look, how does the "right" number of oranges get to a mom & pop grocer on Manhattan Island so that they have enough to satisfy everyone who wants to buy one yet not have too many so that they don't make a profit? An orange that came from a huge plantation in Florida, semitrailored to a warehouse in New Jersey, and shipped via a produce truck through the busy streets. Are mom & pop New Yorker dastardly geniuses of supply chain management? If so they are the ones starving children in the Sudan and you have your guilty party.
Who said anything about a mom&pop store being greedy?
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Old 04-04-2014, 04:59 PM
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you're comparing peanut butter to oranges

not exactly similar shelf lives anyways
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Funny how people act like guinness is quality beer but little do they know it has fucking HFCS LOL. Marketing at its best.
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lawdy yall hit the nazi level of sincerity in actions and are not even arguing the points

essentially if it's cheaper for a company to dump food in a landfill than to transport it to people that need or would use then that food is going into a landfill. that's not greed, that's basic business. you don't serve 6 dollars worth of food to someone and charge them 4 in order to get on their good side. you serve them six dollars worth of food and charge them 10 because you're providing an "experience" for them. that's not greed that's rhetoric. jeremy brought that up somewhere today and everyone seems to have glossed over it without much consideration.
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lawdy yall hit the nazi level of sincerity in actions and are not even arguing the points

essentially if it's cheaper for a company to dump food in a landfill than to transport it to people that need or would use then that food is going into a landfill. that's not greed, that's basic business. you don't serve 6 dollars worth of food to someone and charge them 4 in order to get on their good side. you serve them six dollars worth of food and charge them 10 because you're providing an "experience" for them. that's not greed that's rhetoric. jeremy brought that up somewhere today and everyone seems to have glossed over it without much consideration.
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