Guys, TMO is still killing dragons...

[Fuddwin]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's not poopsocking.

Lol... It's "different" because they got the mob....

Poor Taken (Variety)

[Raavak]

They only had 1 char, not 2. Therefore its not poopsocking.

:/

Whatever !

[Swifty]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People sit on fucking ragefire longer than that.

This.

Taken and BDA can Poopsock RF for days farming plat.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's an 8 hour camp. God help you if you need to camp pained soul.

Casuals will cry that Pained Soul isn't playing nice and want to have him changed to pop on their schedule or something.

[Thulack]

It's not poopsocking because we didnt have toons logged in in TT waiting for a mob to pop. Had 1 toon in EJ at spawn point and everyone else was LOGGED OUT in TT as which was stated by the rules allowed. Notice the difference there LOGGED OUT

[Emsee]

Oh I see, it's not poopsocking even if you auto engage, just as long as the pull leaves you time enough to let your guild log in, check.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by ivosik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I propose that striiker makes a list on how every class should be played during a raid situation. While he is at it he should make a list how every raid mob should be pulled.

If we had a list of the do's and don'ts for each encounter then we wouldnt have all of this. Because obviously a blanket list of do's and don'ts doesnt apply to everyone.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Emsee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh I see, it's not poopsocking even if you auto engage, just as long as the pull leaves you time enough to let your guild log in, check.

Funny how your trying to be a smartass but your actually correct. Thanks. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Emsee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh I see, it's not poopsocking even if you auto engage, just as long as the pull leaves you time enough to let your guild log in, check.

You really don't understand what poopsocking is do you?

poopsocking-
Defacating into a sock in order to avoid having to get up from your computer to use the toilet. Often utilized when playing online role playing games.

If we arent online we arent sitting at our computer pooping into socks. Get it now?

[Reguiy]

Originally Posted by reborn649 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You got your fair shot with the new raid rules, so thats not the problem here. The problem is there is some "gray" area in the rules that the GM's have not spoke up on. According to the way most of the server has interpreted those rules, other than the BDA versus Trakanon scenario, it has worked. If GM's arent speaking up after being so heavily involved with the raid-rule agreement to begin with, than they must think its working. Until someone else is randomly banned (yibz for example), we unfortunately dont have a clear answer and remain in the gray area. Unless it is a BLATANT disregard for the rules, which I haven't saw yet except for the BDA/Trakanon scenario, I think most guilds are trying to follow the PnP as close as possible.

You're right about GMs needing to specify the gray area. This mainly stems from the difference in mentality when it comes to the raid scene between the "casuals" and the "hardcore". The class R guilds are always erring on the side of caution when it comes to bending the rules. They don't want to piss off the GMs and get raid banned. They're trying to follow the PNP rules and lawyer as little as possible. On the other hand, the class C guilds are constantly brainstorming ways to bend the rules and work around the PNP and new raid policies.

Class C guilds make create the grey areas. I really wish class C wouldn't constantly be bending the rules so GMs didn't have to intervene and give rulings every time a mob died. Wouldn't it be great if we could just log in and race each other when a mob spawned? No stalling, no socking, no rule bending or lawyering, just all log in at the same spot and race. O well.