OFFICIAL PROPOSAL from FE/TMO

[Bossman]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just want to state one thing for the guilds that are clearly upset with this. If a large amount of guilds who already aren't getting raid targets don't like this, veto it and if the big 3 aren't willing to budge on this, they will be the ones losing targets.

The majority of the server already aren't getting raid targets, so in a way you have been raid suspended for the past few years. You guys have the upper hand here, don't let this blindside you and force you to make a rash decision by agreeing because there is the raid suspension deadline.

^^ this ^^

[-Catherin-]

Need to change it to the slaying of a VP Dragon, not just the attempt. Being penalized from other raid targets doesn't help you grow into a guild that can actually compete. it just keeps those on top from having to worry about loosing anything in VP once again.

[Ecguy]

Originally Posted by DrKvothe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OK, thank you. Realized how rude my post was after I submitted, so thank you for your polite response.

Would the GMs consider an agreement without TMO and/or FEIB's approval if BDA, Taken, AG, Europa, Divinity, etc. are all on board? Seems like at this point, FEIB and TMO might pull some Republican bullshit and shut everything down if we don't agree to their terms.

Excluding the most hardcore raiders would have a lot of unintended consequences to any agreement. And it wouldn't really be an agreement either.

[Yinikren]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just want to state one thing for the guilds that are clearly upset with this. If a large amount of guilds who already aren't getting raid targets don't like this, veto it and if the big 3 aren't willing to budge on this, they will be the ones losing targets.

The majority of the server already aren't getting raid targets, so in a way you have been raid suspended for the past few years. You guys have the upper hand here, don't let this blindside you and force you to make a rash decision by agreeing because there is the raid suspension deadline.

I can live with not raiding a month if it means fixing a one sided proposal like this.

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only concession I would try to make if I wasn't a 'category A' guild would be to drop inny and fay to de-prioritized targets.

This should already be in the writing. Or people sending tells to these leaders to get it wrote up.
I agree. Even if its just Inny one month an fay the next (back an forth). They are getting tons of raid mobs left up with this proposal. Way more than before , and it gives every lower guild a big chance at mobs. + they have the chance to steal our mobs still too.
But for some reason it just seems like nothing but a full blown rotation (forced by GM's) will make these people happy.

[phacemeltar]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, you guys all need to agree on something. As per Sirken's post, if an agreement isn't reached by the 2nd, everyone is raid suspended until you do.

We aren't going to 'sanction' anything until everyone is in agreement.

plz ban them

[Pullyn]

Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can live with not raiding a month if it means fixing a one sided proposal like this.

+1

[Pheer]

So what Im getting from this so far is that some of you want to hold the raid scene hostage to force some kind of calendar rotation or communist russia mob rationing system, while simultaneously accusing TMO and IB/FE of stacking the deck to favor themselves. Ok cool.

[Bossman]

Originally Posted by Turp_SmokinPurp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This should already be in the writing. Or people sending tells to these leaders to get it wrote up.
I agree. Even if its just Inny one month an fay the next (back an forth). They are getting tons of raid mobs left up with this proposal. Way more than before , and it gives every lower guild a big chance at mobs.
But for some reason it just seems like nothing but a full blown rotation (forced by GM's) will make these people happy.

Hard to complete other epic without VS. Maybe "these people" are tired of a small percentage of server population telling is what we can and cannot do.

[happyhappy]

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Why is anything outside of VP in Priority class again?