Rotations =/= handouts

[lecompte]

So this is my first post on any thread related to the recent server activity, so bear with me: There seems to be a lot of people saying things like changes to the raid seen are a nicety and/or optional and that TMO/FE/WhoTheFuckEver is WILLING to talk about changes... The impression I get from Rogean posts are there is no willing, there is no option; the sword of Damocles hangs overhead -- save your pixels. Move the conversation along.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those are the rules on the server though, and they can benefit anyone who uses them. BDA can do the same thing to us if we're in fear. And that kind of pull has it's downside too. Draco is easy enough. But if you pull talendor or sev to your kill spot and not enough people are logged in or mobilized there. You're going to wipe, and the other guild can take their time and get a free kill. It happens.

That's what DA stall tanking is for silly!

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's what DA stall tanking is for silly!

Yea it can definitely help.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you wanted uncontested raid mobs, why play here? When was there ever a notion that raid mobs here would be uncontested?

There are plenty of other EMU servers you guys can do your 'low numbers dragon kills'. Why does it have to be here when its always been clear from the start that 'there will be competition for dragons'?

If you want contested mobs, why play here, when there's a red server where EVERYTHING is contested? There is plenty of other EMU server where you can do your zerg dragon kills. Why does it have to be here where it's always been clear from the start that the competition is the dragon?

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Sarius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because the rules permit it does not make it right. The rules have permitted TMO to own the server for quite some time now, but GMs want the community to change shit. Rules must not be right

This is an old argument but, would you rather have TMO run the server uncontested? Because you need to be willing to be aggressive with pulls to compete with them. You seem to be unhappy with that incident still, but if a tmo monk was camped on that spot (as they've been known to do) and got FTE before us, I doubt you'd see us as the bad guys then.

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want contested mobs, why play here, when there's a red server where EVERYTHING is contested? There is plenty of other EMU server where you can do your zerg dragon kills. Why does it have to be here where it's always been clear from the start that the competition is the dragon?

Cute attempt on twisting my words, but it was never clear from the start that the competition is the dragon. There is a reason we are all here playing on this server that does not feature instances.

[Rhambuk]

Quit now!

Remember how eq was and was supposed to be, don't taint your memory with the fallacy of P99!

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cute attempt on twisting my words, but it was never clear from the start that the competition is the dragon. There is a reason we are all here playing on this server that does not feature instances.

There's a reason it's called Player versus Environment. And there are exactly as many instances on the Red server.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't know what you think you know [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uh oh... Alarti's making ominous, veiled statements with a shit-eating grin. Something shady must be going on behind the scenes.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a reason it's called Player versus Environment.

Pretty sure this is a WoW term. Isn't it?