Proposition For Raid Rules - Input Requested

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Downside.. when would they repops happen? What about our euro players...
I love repops.. most fun to be had on the server. Too many repops devalues effort and items also. (not the biggest deal) but do we really want another 100 VS's before Velious? Repops won't solve everything either. The people getting 90% of the mobs would still be TMO/FE/IB and the trash would be cleaned up by the other entrenched guilds Taken/BDA/Div.

Says the guy of the guild celebrating 200 trak kills.

[Splorf22]

We've had three years of Kunark; the server is swimming in Kunark pixels. Who gives a fuck at this point?

Also the only reason TMO has cleaned up on repops is VP training. If that is out, they will look very different - especially after casual scum stock up on resist gear and get a little practice. Killing 32k dragons isn't that hard. And of course in Velious repops will be truly epic and it will take several hours to down all the content.

And there is no reason Sirken can't do a repop for our euro friends periodically.

TL;DR: CHANGE THE MECHANICS TO MAKE COMPETITION MORE FUN RATHER THAN DEMANDING THE PLAYERS COPE WITH RETARDED VARIANCE ETC ETC

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by lazcar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alarti' solution is not good enough.. MAybe if it had been offered up a year ago but it has been a monopoly for too long.. Now that change is possible why settle for so little?

What guild are you in. You don't need to settle. Rogean isn't proposing that TMO/FE/IB give you everything of what you want. Did you think this was a vote?

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Being an "elite" guild on this server has nothing to do with your ability to kill mobs. By your definition The A-Team would be an "elite" guild; I'm sure we could kill Gorenaire if we could be bothered to all get resist sets and had time for a clean engage during our prime playing times etc.

I never said you couldn't! I just do not have any empirical data on the A-Team. I honestly do not know your member numbers or your levels or anything like that. Sorry if I offended you.

However what I have seen of BDA is that they could field that kind of force..with resists etc etc..for most of the day (until sleepy times). They have done poopsocking, racing, gore kills, vp kills, played games until they saw how "evil" they needed to be to win..and didn't do it. That's the only reason I consider them "elite" as it were on the server.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Says the guy of the guild celebrating 200 trak kills.

I wish we had a shit load less trak kills.. cause that would mean velious is out.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would like to honestly know how BAD TMO was hurt with the suspensions and their ability to mobilize, etc etc. But we can't unless we see them raiding. Rogean wants something agreed upon before they come back. The fact that they would offer mobs at all is amazing compared to a year ago. You maybe could get some gains pressing them, but a 40-50% dropoff for raid kills for them is a big deal.

Hurt?.... haha guild is much more fired up than normal.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And there is no reason Sirken can't do a repop for our euro friends periodically.

Actually, there is. But I won't go into detail here.

Staff isn't against repops, just need a solid way to implement it.

It also doesn't really solve the problem. We can't repop every week. If we were going to do that, we'd just cut all the respawn timers in half.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Ungriim [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The point is you're still trying to lockdown content that you've been killing for 3 years now. Is it REALLY that big of a deal to let some other people play the game? Button mashing VS for 72 hours is not playing a game. There is no "big 4" the mobs are all the same with 32khp and all suck.

You brag about 200 Trak kills...can't let ~10 a year go to other people?

Its not locked down. Trak can be killed with a few numbers and some resist gear. VS can be killed by what 8-10 ppl max? Nothing is stopping anyone from competing. FTE is FTE. It has never been easier for a guild to get a kill.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hurt?.... haha guild is much more fired up than normal.

I meant resources not pride!

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I meant resources not pride!

Resources unaffected [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Also, if you are new here Motivation is the single most valuable resource to a raid guild anyways.