Rogean - Open Discussion for Forced PNP (Play Nice Policy)

[Stasis01]

Yes if it was somewhat fair and not just one side getting griefed off the box all the time, and we had people enjoying this server and not bleeding players like crazy I wouldn't have made this thread.

Like I said the rules would need to be decided on the specifics - I have stated my opinion on the best way to do it, but I understand small grps/individuals may want the same rights.

[heartbrand]

RD charter does not allow for corpse camping. Thanks tho. And again, LoZ had a self enforced LNS that worked well with far more pvp and competition than red99.

[Hateraid]

Originally Posted by Fawqueue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Says this about EverQuest, but probably gripes all the time about how unfair it is that he's making shit wages and the rich are making it impossible for him to earn a living.

Things people at the top say to people at the bottom...

Make blind assumptions much?

[Stasis01]

The problem I see with individual CR rights is "LNS Please" then they loot and attack, and a GM is forced to dig through logs or just get frustrated and do nothing.

When a guild leader calls LNS and the guild loots and tries something greasey - it is easy to drop a hard punishment on them, two week guild suspension, guildleader suspended for a month etc not rocket science.

[Hateraid]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

RD charter does not allow for corpse camping.

I had to laugh at this one. Red Dawn only acts angelic towards the 2 more powerful guilds. I see the fakeness all the time in ooc like "Great fight guys!", "We are allowing you to LNS, don't worry though! you don't have to scoot!!", "You can have your pp back!"

Its only to keep grief off them so they can pve in piece. They don't give a shit about play nice. Most will turn around and grief someone lower on the food chain just because they don't have risk for political backlash. You know how many newbs are almost forced to jojn Red Dawn these days to avoid getting griefed so they can level?

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Hateraid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had to laugh at this one. Red Dawn only acts angelic towards the 2 more powerful guilds. I see the fakeness all the time in ooc like "Great fight guys!", "We are allowing you to LNS, don't worry though! you don't have to scoot!!", "You can have your pp back!"

Its only to keep grief off them so they can pve in piece. They don't give a shit about play nice. Most will turn around and grief someone lower on the food chain just because they don't have risk for political backlash. You know how many newbs are almost forced to jojn Red Dawn these days to avoid getting griefed so they can level?

All lowbies join RD so they have groups to level with, any other assumption is ridiculous.

[Pikrib]

Originally Posted by Hateraid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its only to keep grief off them so they can pve in piece. They don't give a shit about play nice. Most will turn around and grief someone lower on the food chain just because they don't have risk for political backlash. You know how many newbs are almost forced to jojn Red Dawn these days to avoid getting griefed so they can level?

Says the guy who CC's naked players...

[mcappy]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All lowbies join RD so they have groups to level with, any other assumption is ridiculous.

Making a blanket statement like that is even more ridiculous. RD attacks unguilded players as often as not. It makes perfect sense for someone to join specifically to avoid getting attacked by the only guild with a decent amount of players in pvp range from 20-45+, even if they play a solo friendly class.

Not that I see that as a problem. I just think you have a very rose-tinted view of your guild and its role on the server.

[Nirgon]

FFA good
Item loot good

Two teams servers, no risk vs reward, WoW, WoW clones = bad

[Stasis01]

Off topic insignificant and pointless to discuss is my reply to that.

Maybe people are flocking to RD to avoid getting griefed by RD, I could be uninformed, I think people quitting due to the level of grief RD are putting out is beyond far fetched, and in no way will any guild ever be 100% without bad apples.