So how are ya'll liking Obamacare these days?

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Duly noted. Sorry you're no longer a fan. I work really hard to keep you bros rollin' in the lulz, so it bums me out when you're bummed out.[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While we're offering our unsolicited impressions of one another: I don't have the first fucking clue who you are.

Classic turtle bro.

Ice burn!

[Barkingturtle]

I've still got it!

[Shannacore]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've still got it!

Did yer book thing work out?

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sometimes.

I'll take it!

Originally Posted by Shannacore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did yer book thing work out?

I'm in the home stretch, just ironing out the final edit. This is the fourth revision. That is three more than I expected. Thanks for asking!

There was a slight delay, as a few months ago my agent/editor welcomed his firstborn. He's based in London, so those socialist weirdos forced him to take a couple weeks of paid paternity leave. Hey! That's kinda on-topic!

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've still got it!

Sometimes.

[Millburn]

I didn't read any of this obviously troll bait thread but to answer the thread question...

Loving it!

I actually got through the stupid website, which was a horrible experience for the most part but holy damn was it worth it.

I'm literally paying a fifth of what I was paying for insurance previously and it ACTUALLY COVERS WHAT I NEED IT TO COVER. It's a fucking Christmas day miracle in my household.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Millburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't read any of this obviously troll bait thread but to answer the thread question...

Loving it!

I actually got through the stupid website, which was a horrible experience for the most part but holy damn was it worth it.

I'm literally paying a fifth of what I was paying for insurance previously and it ACTUALLY COVERS WHAT I NEED IT TO COVER. It's a fucking Christmas day miracle in my household.

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[Nuggie]

Originally Posted by Millburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't read any of this obviously troll bait thread but to answer the thread question...

Loving it!

I actually got through the stupid website, which was a horrible experience for the most part but holy damn was it worth it.

I'm literally paying a fifth of what I was paying for insurance previously and it ACTUALLY COVERS WHAT I NEED IT TO COVER. It's a fucking Christmas day miracle in my household.

Obamacare, ACA, whatever you want to call it is potentially good in atleast the short term for many poor people.

From the point of view from a middle class family man: my employer (largest company in our industry) couldn't (refused to) afford the taxes on the plan they offered us starting in 2014. They are phasing out our PPO plan and offering a lower premium HMO plan with a 6x sized deductible.

I'm going from the mentality of, "Hey, if shit happens my family is covered." to "Hope we don't get sick this year."

[moklianne]

Originally Posted by Nuggie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Obamacare, ACA, whatever you want to call it is potentially good in atleast the short term for many poor people.

From the point of view from a middle class family man: my employer (largest company in our industry) couldn't (refused to) afford the taxes on the plan they offered us starting in 2014. They are phasing out our PPO plan and offering a lower premium HMO plan with a 6x sized deductible.

I'm going from the mentality of, "Hey, if shit happens my family is covered." to "Hope we don't get sick this year."

Did they break down the costs?

I work for a rather large ERP and retail software company and the ACA costs were described as such a small contributor to the total increase that it was really barely worth mentioning. From the presentation:

-Aging population and increased average lifespan
-Technology improvements and the cost associated with treating complex conditions
-Rise of complex biologic medications pushing Rx spend upward
-Health industry consolidation increased 50% in past few years (e.g. hospital mergers) as fewer markets compete for patients
-Health Care Reform – additional coverage requirements; Patient Centered Outcomes Research fees (2013 & 2014) and Transition Reinsurance fees (2014-2016) paid by Epicor.

Now, what many companies are doing is using this as an opportunity to push you off onto the exchanges, since the cost savings to the company would be immense. Companies may publicly say they hate the ACA, but behind closed doors, they love it.

[Nuggie]

Also, a quote from a successful money manager:

"Money goes to where it is treated the best."

If you treat the rich/middle class poorly they will leave and find places that treat them better. Look what happened to Detroit since the 70's. Taxes went up, revenues went down (because the rich and middle class left). They left to cities/states that offered them better deals. That's capitalism.

One last thought before bedtime, what has the government put their hands in (other than national security) that didn't turn into a mismanaged disaster? Provide examples with any dissenting opinions please.