Critical Suggestions for Raid Rules

[mmiles8]

As if you didn't know that this thread would devolve into another flame war that will just get locked and moved to R&F. Seriously, if you perceive a problem with raid rules, and you want to solve that problem, these forums are not the place to begin brainstorming.

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, R'tal is a whore with that Rakusha. I guess with no way to actually contest mobs with people, their's justification in sitting around in zones waiting. Doesn't mean it isn't boring as shit though =p.

I was going to be a dick and make a really sarcastic/snarky post about how people who don't know anything about what is going on in the raid scene always flock to these threads to post their 2cp and then point out the fact that R'tal isn't currently in the game as an example - but instead I'll just not do that.

Oh wait, I think I accidentally did it anyway... sorry.

[Humwawa]

I'm fine with either FFA or Rotation. That's about all I've got for ya, at this rate.

Maybe the "monthly guild meeting" would be a good place for this to happen? 90% of the people posting in this thread, myself included, haven't the power to change anything for anyone.

[Buhbuh]

It wasn't directed at any particular person - I was simply pointing out a rare drop in PoH that is generally difficult to get to if you don't want to camp there.

I was a monk live as well so it seemed like the easiest item to note. Where else would 15 people be camped though, really? You can park a noob at vox, any tracker at N wall in Fear, people are always in SolB, no one goes to kedge =p, just leaves Hate.

[Neach]

If GM's don't want to deal with it and have rules to it....... Well why doesn't someone say "fuck you for camping it for days we just came in and ganked it in from you." As long as you are not training it's all good right?

I for one am sick of the poopsocking, sick of the drama and numerous threads being discussed about it and sure as hell sick and tired of being polite to any mother fucker who tries to tell me "we work hard". . .Sitting in front of a fuckin computer or keeping it logged in while you sleep is NOT effort you dumb fuckin tools.

[Allizia]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can say that right now..it will be 1. DA/IB/WI/Divinity are all currently perma camping Vox/Inny/Nagafen/CT. You can bet that as soon as a dragon/god dies that guild will not leave to go try and get in on Vox...they will stay right there and keep camping the boss until a guild offers to swap.

Rofl, that's hilarious. How is this different from a rotation again? Not counting the camping/poopsocking.

So the "competition" went from being able to chill and do what you want with scheduled raids once a week to perma farming the same boss week after week with required attendance 24/7 at some mystical preparation spot. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Neach [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If GM's don't want to deal with it and have rules to it....... Well why doesn't someone say "fuck you for camping it for days we just came in and ganked it in from you." As long as you are not training it's all good right?

I for one am sick of the poopsocking, sick of the drama and numerous threads being discussed about it and sure as hell sick and tired of being polite to any mother fucker who tries to tell me "we work hard". . .Sitting in front of a fuckin computer or keeping it logged in while you sleep is NOT effort you dumb fuckin tools.

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

people who don't know anything about what is going on in the raid scene always flock to these threads to post their 2cp

[Buhbuh]

I'm just speaking for some of you here when I say PvP is a great answer, maybe not for this server but perhaps somewhere down the line if they ever want to host another with donations or something.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...some form of weekly pve skill test for 1st draft of bosses

That's the most interesting thing I've seen so far.

Supreme's ranking system has merit imho, too. Both could be fun for the server, and player-run and coordinated so there would be minimal GM interaction.

2nd in line could plausibly wait to see if the first ranked contenders wiped, and if so take the spawn. Each draft 1-4 would have primary shots, and choice on seconds would go to remaining drafts.

[Bones]

Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where else would 15 people be camped though, really? You can park a noob at vox, any tracker at N wall in Fear, people are always in SolB, no one goes to kedge =p, just leaves Hate.

Any of the 4 main targets; Naggy, Vox, CT, and Inny. Because if they have 15 people in the zone prior to a mob spawning, they are guaranteed the first shot at it. And since this content is old and well known, there's slim to no chance of failure. It's an excellent way to guarantee your guild content when you can't handle true competition.

Originally Posted by Allizia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rofl, that's hilarious. How is this different from a rotation again? Not counting the camping/poopsocking.

So the "competition" went from being able to chill and do what you want with scheduled raids once a week to perma farming the same boss week after week with required attendance 24/7 at some mystical preparation spot. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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