My actual beef with Nihilum in general (and the leadership more specifically)

[runlvlzero]

So suck it Nihilum, your getting flamed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But my beef is that, we get koolaid up in here talkin shit about how they are the best of the best MMO players on the planet. Nah nah.

yeah that seems to be the modus operandi for the entire vocal majority server though *shrugs*

[Silikten]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But my beef is that, we get koolaid up in here talkin shit about how they are the best of the best MMO players on the planet. Nah nah.

Only people who think that are them. Even when <Azrael> shit stomps then w/ mid 50s

[Labanen]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So suck it Nihilum, your getting flamed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure seems more like tears than flames, sorry you re so angry.

This is just a game.

[runlvlzero]

I dunno from what I can tell Nihilum hates me pretty bad :P so they got some tears lol. And I haven't even had to touch their pixels, just their good name.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

idgaf about ur fucking loots, but when you roll 32 to faydedary and all the bluebie faggots "feel the need" to roll nihilum, it's the most fucking lame thing I have ever seen

P.S. I don't want to go pug and random with Nihilum.

Fuck your stupid ass entitlement arguments. I'm tellin you guys what it looks like from the outside, than you have people like Tune, an Elderan with their leaderboards and /plugging/gate potting ways.

And only because YOU GUYS feel entitled to it. And you come here and Nihilums only DEFENSE is that "we were here first, didnt get banned for sploitin, were entitled, GM azrak on our side"

I just don't understand your argument bro. It seems like you're saying Nihilum should take an active roll in building their own competition. And Nihilum's defense against what? I think their role on the server is pretty clear, being the top PVE guild that the majority who want to do the PVE game will be drawn to.

I guess if your complaint is against human nature in general (following the path of least resistance) I can understand that, but again...it's human nature why would you expect any different?

The simple fact of the matter is people aren't choosing to Nihilum vs. another similar guild. The choice as it exists right now is if I want to do any PVE I join Nihilum, period. There isn't another option, which is the point I've been trying to make. If your argument is "people who want loot are lame" then you picked the wrong game. This game is 100% about loot, there is no other form of character progression. If you like EQ PVP and don't want to participate in the PVE game there are servers out there that give you a level 60 and your choice of gear and you go duke it out FPS style.

Sorry man, I respect you but I read this post as more of an anti EverQuest post then anti-Nihilum.

And for the record, I have the same outside view as you do. I'm not Nihilum, I'm not anybody. I solo 95% of the time and don't have any allegiances outside of friends I knew coming into Red and the ones I've met along the way. I see the exact same problems you see, and I don't disagree there is a problem. But I guess where we do disagree is who is at fault, or even if there is fault to be given. My limited view based solely on what I've experienced since coming to red:
1. I've had direct interaction with Nihilum a total of one time (at least on a tagged toon) and it was a cleric who exp rezzed me after I died in Cazic Thule.
2. I've had 0 direct interaction with anyone in Azrael (again, tagged) outside of Agatha who seems like a genuinely decent person (and I realize he isn't in Az anymore, but regardless).
3. I've been KoS'd by every FoH aside from Floozy, managed to live through the attacks thus far but I'll get dropped eventually.
4. I've been randomly attacked by a few untagged people, nothing out of the ordinary.
5. I've grouped with/leveled along side Knights of Say Ni, Neriak Strip Club and probably a few other smaller mid level guilds and untagged people without incident.

So just from my limited perspective here, which guild am I looking at as the enemy? Don't take what I'm saying about FoH personally. You guys are doing what you want to do and I respect that. But you made a post blaming all the server problems on another guild when a lot of the problems you listed are more indicative of your own guild rather than the one you're criticizing, specifically in this paragraph:

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But you guys are not running newbie feeder guilds. You have half your chars unguilded and ganking people without wearing targets. You let spells rot in seb. You don't run /random 100 pug raids for any of the smaller guilds like <Serenity> was, or <Knights of Ni> style guilds. You don't have your alts in a friendly guild. You run around in the best gear you can and kill anyone who disagrees with you no matter how unsportsmanlike it is. You will take any borderline in game exploitive advantage you can just to avoid getting overrun by the "server mongrels".

Again, don't take this is as me ripping on you or FoH. If what you're doing is fun and is within the rules then I support it 100%. I'm sure you guys will get me a bunch of times as I level up, but I'll try to put up a good fight.

[pharmakos]

again.... this guy^ is smart

[pharmakos]

except for i don't think runlvlzero is in FoH

[Retti_]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dunno from what I can tell Nihilum hates me pretty bad :P so they got some tears lol. And I haven't even had to touch their pixels, just their good name.

We get free trak BP for killing you and your not even 52

Most wanted list

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by Retti_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We get free trak BP for killing you and your not even 52

Most wanted list

Glad I can keep the end game interesting for you losers.