Will I be reimbursed?

[arsenalpow]

Fun fact. One day Jarnauga was looking at Divinty's RL picture thread that's on their public forums and he came across a picture of Infuriati. Infuriati turns out was a former BDA player named Wampy. He was our first epic shaman in the guild and literally days later he RMTed off everything.

We cross referenced his current gear with his gear list on the RMT site. We reported everything to Amelinda, no idea what became of it. He definitely burnt us badly, so when Jarn found this I passed it along to Divinity, if I remember correctly he had just decided to "retire" until velious and I doubt he's tagged with Divinity anymore. Just Wampy doing Wampy things.

Back on topic, if you need help downing a general for a rogue epic let someone in BDA know and we'd be glad to help out.

[orsk]

Dundor in EC tun making more false claims, confirmed lowlife and pathetic. Also admitting to scamming. He knows GM's wont do jack, good thing accounts cant be traded or sold anymore.

[Widan]

Why does no action ever get taken against the blatant scammers though? You won't be reimbursed, but surely the scammer should be banned. The same thing was happening in the month prior to account trading being banned. Every other post on the forums for an account was a scam and all of the scammers got away with them.

I will just quote my post from a month ago about MQ'ing

Originally Posted by Widan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why not just get rid of it altogether?

The same thing that happened with account trading is going to happen here, i.e. more and more people scamming until it's outright banned. Why don't we just skip the scamming part this time? Scammers aren't going to care even if you do go after them because they will just be low level characters without any ties auctioning fake MQ's, just like they did with account trades.

This is exactly what is happening and will happen more and more until some action is taken to deter scamming or we will end up with MQ'ing being removed just like account trading.

[Pringles]

Why are GMs allowing MQ scamming, exactly? I get not "supporting" MQs, but scamming is scamming is scamming, MQ or not.

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Pringles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why are GMs allowing MQ scamming, exactly? I get not "supporting" MQs, but scamming is scamming is scamming, MQ or not.

because its no different from direct trade scam:

A: WTS fungi tunic 100k
You: I will buy
A puts Cloth Tunic into your Trade Window
You put 100k and click trade

The trade is completed, and calling to GM does absolutely nothing - you clicked TRADE - whatever was in the window was traded. Its done.

[Widan]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The trade is completed, and calling to GM does absolutely nothing - you clicked TRADE - whatever was in the window was traded. Its done.

Not exactly seeing as GM's are people and not robots so they can make decisions on a case by case basis. Though it seems they have decided that all scamming will go unpunished. The question the community wants to know is why?

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Widan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not exactly seeing as GM's are people and not robots so they can make decisions on a case by case basis. Though it seems they have decided that all scamming will go unpunished. The question the community wants to know is why?

if I would have sold you some MQ for say 100k, and never delivered, how would you prove that you didn't simply owed me 100k that you just returned? Cause that's what I will claim.

[Vaildez]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if I would have sold you some MQ for say 100k, and never delivered, how would you prove that you didn't simply owed me 100k that you just returned? Cause that's what I will claim.

And that is why we have a database. They can easily pull a query and prove this is false.

[ncapatina]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if I would have sold you some MQ for say 100k, and never delivered, how would you prove that you didn't simply owed me 100k that you just returned? Cause that's what I will claim.

I'd assume there would be a detailed chat log of the sale. It's never a he said/she said situation there are lots of data points the GM staff have access to.

That being said, if they endorsed MQing by supporting it that's just another time suck away from important issues/development. It's a small team.

Either make the items droppable so a true trade can happen, or leave it free for all and people will just have to make good decisions.

[Lu|z Sect]

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