kill multiquesting

[citizen1080]

Jboots on your bard is the best investment you can make.

Can AoE kite without twisting any speed songs.
And what zander said

[t0lkien]

I don't know. I started levelling with an Iksar Warrior around the low 30's and even with his heavy XP penalties he has outleveled me and is now 10 ahead of me. I don't neckbeard, but play almost every day as a Bard, so that shows you how possible it still is to get groups and XP if you try. He's still going hard in the 50's.

Also, the other side of the inflated economy on p99 is that players are also much more likely to give stuff away - especially if you join a guild. I was gifted with all my armor and some half-decent weapons by guildies, and total strangers have just handed me stuff I could use as well (or paid for ports for CRs etc.) I've since passed the gifts on to other lower levels, and its likely they will pass them on themselves.

So while the big stuff is as hard as it ever was to accomplish (epics etc. for those of us with difficult epics), the little stuff is made significantly easier.

[Gimp]

As a new player on this server (started about a week ago), this is one of the things that frustrates me the most. I have been turned away from groups that were full of ridiculous twinks, only because of my gear. What about level 11 clerics and rogues with epics is even remotely "classic"?

This server is great for many reasons, but is nearly unplayable for new characters. I have personally witnessed three or four people quit within the first week because they felt that they would never be able to step foot into a raid zone such as PoF, PoH, etc..because of the elitist and selfish play that people on this server seem to have adopted. Fortunately, I have had a few players along the way help me out here and there with plat and gear, so I may be one of the lucky ones. Even then, it is severely disheartening to load up an EQemu server sporting a "CLASSIC" tag to see people MQ'ing epics left and right, level 3 clerics with fungis, etc. I guess I partially understand that the people that have been on this server since day 1 have all the reason (and plat) in the world to twink out whatever class they want, but it turns new people away from the game, very quickly. I hope you high level people twinking and plvl'ing in exp hot spots realize this (although I'm sure you don't give a shit).

I came to this server looking for the feeling I had when I loaded up Everquest back in 2000, and in a sense, I have found that. In another sense, this "classic" nonsense that is broadcasted in the server name and description leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. This will probably go unread by 90% of people, but I would really like all of you "old school" and "uber" players to realize that completely new people are trying to join every day, and are being turned off nearly immediately when they zone into Crushbone and see a pile of Orcs standing under a level 7 rogue with a Ragebringer. Shit is just fucking ridiculous.

As of now, I love this server, but after being inspected before being invited to a group earlier today, I am severely contemplating continuing. This. Is. Not. Classic. EQ. Not even close.

/rant

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a new player on this server (started about a week ago), this is one of the things that frustrates me the most. I have been turned away from groups that were full of ridiculous twinks, only because of my gear. What about level 11 clerics and rogues with epics is even remotely "classic"?

This server is great for many reasons, but is nearly unplayable for new characters. I have personally witnessed three or four people quit within the first week because they felt that they would never be able to step foot into a raid zone such as PoF, PoH, etc..because of the elitist and selfish play that people on this server seem to have adopted. Fortunately, I have had a few players along the way help me out here and there with plat and gear, so I may be one of the lucky ones. Even then, it is severely disheartening to load up an EQemu server sporting a "CLASSIC" tag to see people MQ'ing epics left and right, level 3 clerics with fungis, etc. I guess I partially understand that the people that have been on this server since day 1 have all the reason (and plat) in the world to twink out whatever class they want, but it turns new people away from the game, very quickly. I hope you high level people twinking and plvl'ing in exp hot spots realize this (although I'm sure you don't give a shit).

I came to this server looking for the feeling I had when I loaded up Everquest back in 2000, and in a sense, I have found that. In another sense, this "classic" nonsense that is broadcasted in the server name and description leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. This will probably go unread by 90% of people, but I would really like all of you "old school" and "uber" players to realize that completely new people are trying to join every day, and are being turned off nearly immediately when they zone into Crushbone and see a pile of Orcs standing under a level 7 rogue with a Ragebringer. Shit is just fucking ridiculous.

As of now, I love this server, but after being inspected before being invited to a group earlier today, I am severely contemplating continuing. This. Is. Not. Classic. EQ. Not even close.

/rant

You're stepping into a four year old behind the time-line classic server. It would be like rolling a new toon on live when everyone else was in planes of power gear.

Yes, it stinks having to play catch up when you want "the classic experience" but, 1) this is still closer than anything you can get anywhere else and 2) the only thing that would fix it for you is restarting the server (which wouldn't fix the issues you are describing for other new players when they stumble onto the server 4 years from now).

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're stepping into a four year old behind the time-line classic server. It would be like rolling a new toon on live when everyone else was in planes of power gear.

Yes, it stinks having to play catch up when you want "the classic experience" but, 1) this is still closer than anything you can get anywhere else and 2) the only thing that would fix it for you is restarting the server (which wouldn't fix the issues you are describing for other new players when they stumble onto the server 4 years from now).

Clap finnaly a constructive well written post wich sums all the real trouble we realy have.
good job sir.

[t0lkien]

I feel you man, but what do you want? Are the devs supposed to implement non-classic things in order to maintain the server's classic nature? That's immediately self-defeating.

Epics on level 7's was always possible on Live. Level 3's with Fungi's was totally classic - that's often what they were used for actually, PLing alts.

I don't know what the answer is for the endgame congestion, though. I haven't got there yet so it isn't affecting me directly. Velious is going to ease a lot of this, even if it results in the top guilds blowing through the content in months, getting bored, and retiring, leaving the server less stressed for the rest of us.

[Gimp]

Originally Posted by t0lkien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel you man, but what do you want? Are the devs supposed to implement non-classic things in order to maintain the server's classic nature? That's immediately self-defeating.

Epics on level 7's was always possible on Live. Level 3's with Fungi's was totally classic - that's often what they were used for actually, PLing alts.

I don't know what the answer is for the endgame congestion, though. I haven't got there yet so it isn't affecting me directly. Velious is going to ease a lot of this, even if it results in the top guilds blowing through the content in months, getting bored, and retiring, leaving the server less stressed for the rest of us.

I know this, but I feel like the level on which it is used on this server is just out of hand. Yes, on live, you saw an incredible twink with an MQ'd epic, full Kunark gear, Fungi, etc..but no where near the level it is on here. You can literally go into any newbie zone and find at least 2-3 solo twinks that are just retardely geared.

Back in CLASSIC EQ, a twinked warrior meant full crafted with dual SSoY. Twinked on P99 is an entire different dimension. New players can't compete with that. I feel bad for my buddies that are playing tank classes and routinely looking for groups in their self-earned gear, because they are being turned away left and right. It's just not right man. Especially when it comes to tanks, people are so gear judgemental that it's sickening.

[Lyra]

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

judgemental

Speaking of judgmental, how bout giving the server a little more than a week before making such bold commentaries.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Lyra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Speaking of judgmental, how bout giving the server a little more than a week before making such bold commentaries.

No, no, we need to see what new people think, bold commentaries by newbs should be encouraged. After a few months he'll either be assimilated or have left in disgust. This is the only way we find out just how fucked up this server is from the perspective of a new member of the community. We already know how it's fucked up from the perspective of the various factions of bitter vets that post here.

When new people routinely see the server like the OP describes, I'd say it's a problem. And judging by the regularity we see threads like this one started by disappointed newbs, it does seem to be the routine newb experience here. Kinda like starting EQ during PoP woulda been on live, and gee, PoP era is when the live population seemed to stagnate.

[Lyra]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, no, we need to see what new people think, bold commentaries by newbs should be encouraged. After a few months he'll either be assimilated or have left in disgust. This is the only way we find out just how fucked up this server is from the perspective of a new member of the community. We already know how it's fucked up from the perspective of the various factions of bitter vets that post here.

When new people routinely see the server like the OP describes, I'd say it's a problem. And judging by the regularity we see threads like this one started by disappointed newbs, it does seem to be the routine newb experience here. Kinda like starting EQ during PoP woulda been on live, and gee, PoP era is when the live population seemed to stagnate.

So after one week, he has an opinion on how multi-questing has affected his game play? I've been in CB recently as I've been playing my level 11 completely untwinked cleric. No one inspected me. I just guilded a untwinked rogue who was grouped in CB at the time. Just what multi-quested item was ruining his chances of playing in CB? Something is not right with his post.

I started in January, well after most of you. I have had no problem leveling my characters. Druid to 51, Cleric to 56. Something might be fucked up, but it's not the server.

I type this while I'm sitting with my guild mate at the "impossible to get" AC camp in So Ro. Shocking, I know.