Sat in a philosophy class today.

[Alawen]

If IB could go back in time and kill Hitler before the war and atrocities, would it be an ethical imperative to do so? (I'm ignoring the fact that he's a Nazi and that the guild is dedicated to killing Nazis.)

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[Ektar]

from what I learned from seinfeld, yes you are supposed to go back in time and kill hitler.


they also kinda do that in the movie hehehe

[Alawen]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't really believe in IQ, because I don't believe the brain works that way. I believe the brain is much more specialized. Machine learning methods in general don't transfer: you can't take a classifier built for one task and reuse it for another. There is such a thing as working memory I guess, but in general I just don't like IQ.

Delayed gratification is an interesting element to introduce, but I'm not convinced of your reasoning. I would argue that IQ scores and the ability to delay gratification both result from high intelligence. As evidence, I would present the fact that high IQ also correlates with the same successful life outcomes as the marshmallow test that you referenced, even when controlled for things like economic background and education. As with all metrics, IQ works much better on a population than on an individual.

Do you really read for some kind of future benefit? I read because I honestly enjoy it. I have "Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking" and "For Whom the Bell Tolls" waiting for my class to end. I chose them both purely for my own interest, not for any practical future use.

[Hailto]

For Whom the Bell Tolls is great, love Hemmingway, should read The Old Man and the Sea too if you haven't.

[Alawen]

Originally Posted by Hailto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For Whom the Bell Tolls is great, love Hemmingway, should read The Old Man and the Sea too if you haven't.

I haven't, but I intend to, assuming that I enjoy this one. I read "The Sound and the Fury" and intended to read more Faulkner, but goddamn. What the fuck?

[Alawen]

Oh, I totally didn't understand the reference to machine learning. Was that an analogy, or do you mean that you think we'd attempt to create an AI that works like our mind, or is there a use of that phrase in reference to human intelligence that I don't understand?

[Splorf22]

Well when I said books I was referring to study, not web comics.

Anyway I find it much more reasonable to put the causality from future time preference to intelligence than vice versa simply because FTP seems like something that is far more likely to be emotional/structural/genetic.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, I totally didn't understand the reference to machine learning. Was that an analogy, or do you mean that you think we'd attempt to create an AI that works like our mind, or is there a use of that phrase in reference to human intelligence that I don't understand?

My point was that its special purpose. Your computer has 1 CPU and many programs. Upgrade the CPU and they all get faster.

Keep in mind that I'm not arguing that some people don't have better brains. Clearly the brain is defined by genetics as well; some people will have more neurons or more connections or whatnot. I just think the biggest part is simply time spent.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Ektar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

he was telling you what you were implying


whether he was correct in trying to tell you, the sender, what you were saying is not in question here.


imply is the right word

but i said that that wasn't my implication, which means that it is so, making the insight he gained from what I said an inference.

[Ektar]

if you're red and I say you are green, is my use of the word "are" incorrect? that is the verb which I am using to assert a false statement.

are is still correct, as in imply. He inferred what he claimed you implied