Duration of Shared Grp XP Penalties

[liveitup1216]

i think the point is, race/class penalties is something most people accept, it is just the fact that the penalty is then applied to the entire group, is what people would mostly like to see be changed/removed.

as far as the people saying they refuse to play such-and-such class because of it, or refusing to play period, is where i firmly say, good riddance.

and if you're the type of person who refuses to party with a penalty class/race based on the penalty alone, you're just a plain old baddie. but as a consolation prize, here's something that would probably interest you more than this server.

http://www.hellokittyonline.com/

edit for clarity. (no pun intended)

[utenan]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So it's not classic.... on purpose?

yep http://project1999.org/forums/showth...t=10818&page=2

2 page, post 17

[Striiker]

The shared XP penalty in groups should go away. It hurts groups and hurts players who have penalties. I have been in several groups since they quietly applied the patch to adjust the XP system. People noticed quickly that something was wrong / different. Once it was discovered that the XP change was in, people in groups are reluctant to take in hybrids especially when they have significant racial penalties. I tend to be in pick-up groups and have heard repeatedly that players try to avoid those who impact their XP gain unless they have no other option and need a particular class. I don't share this sentiment but I can't deny the facts that the difference is noticeable. This was made very clear one night in unrest. We were all lvl 25 with a 26 monk and a couple 24's. There was a lvl 25 Dwarf Paladin in the group who eventually left and was replaced by another lvl 25 non-hybrid class. XP picked up noticeably and our pull rate did not change. We were in the basement and were waiting for stuff to re-spawn (as was the case when the Paladin was with us).
I remember when this all went down on classic. People were very upset then (as they are now) and SOE had to change the XP system because it was hurting the hybrid / racial players (as now). They admitted that it was a mistake.
I'll continue to play here regardless of the XP system as I truly love the classic experience. I'm not "hardcore" though. I have a modified UI as it enhances my play experience. I like the challenges of leveling and the need to group. The XP penalty system though I think is a detractor from the overall experience and is something I would be happy to see removed.

[Toony]

Originally Posted by Lucrio40 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You didn't really answer the question. Exploiters were banned in classic, but the exploits remained for years, it was up to GM's to catch them and players to tip off GM's.

I didn't answer the question because there wasn't one.

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[Pico]

Originally Posted by Toony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't answer the question because there wasn't one.

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And yet you make giant leaps in logic by saying players who want the shared penalties removed want P1999 to be some super easy WoW-fest.

[Toony]

Originally Posted by Pico [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And yet you make giant leaps in logic by saying players who want the shared penalties removed want P1999 to be some super easy WoW-fest.

Once again, close but not exactly. That particular comment referred to race penalties in general.

[Pico]

Originally Posted by Toony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Once again, close but not exactly. That particular comment referred to race penalties in general.

Nope.

Originally Posted by Toony

Eh I hope not. Seeing a lvl 50+ Troll SK back in the day was impressive, you knew they had persevered a lotta BS to get there.

Please don't make this some WoW'like Kumbaya lets all hold hands and give all the retards a trophy so no one feels left out kinda thing.

That was a reply to someone asking if there could be a compromise in the way shared xp penalties affect groups.

[Overcast]

This game in it's classic rendition, is what taught me *not* to rush to max level.
I've found my overall gaming experience to be superior because of this. In the 'newer' MMO's, I find the instant levels and stat gear that drops off the very first mob you kill very droll and repetitive.

When does a person *typically* get bored of a game? Unless the game sucks, it's when there are many less things to do... for me the first 'milestone' on the road to gaming boredom is max level. Not saying I don't want to get there and not saying it suddenly gets boring then, just that my whole reason for playing this game is for the challenge.

Can't very well have a challenge without bumps and potholes in the road. The other MMO's seek to somehow provide a 'challenge' - the easiest way possible. Simple logic.... would lead one to think...

Not to say there isn't a time for it. By the time I reach it, I WILL feel like I've damn well earned it - all mechanics aside.

That's classic - to me.

<< Human Shadowknight.

And it's perfectly fine if you don't want to group with me because of a shared penalty.

[eqholmes]

I thought the penalty was going to kill my ranger getting groups, but I was wrong. Since the penalty has come out I have yet to be shunned anymore than normal. I feel out of all the hybrids that the Ranger is the one most likely to get screwed, but if I’m still getting groups how bad can it be for bards/sk/pals? Hell I’m the hired hand for tanking 80% of the time and most people are like dam rangers aren’t that bad after all.

Holmes 50 Nerco DA
Gretzky 44 Ranger DA (NEW MAIN probably)

[utenan]

Originally Posted by eqholmes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought the penalty was going to kill my ranger getting groups, but I was wrong. Since the penalty has come out I have yet to be shunned anymore than normal. I feel out of all the hybrids that the Ranger is the one most likely to get screwed, but if I’m still getting groups how bad can it be for bards/sk/pals? Hell I’m the hired hand for tanking 80% of the time and most people are like dam rangers aren’t that bad after all.

Holmes 50 Nerco DA
Gretzky 44 Ranger DA (NEW MAIN probably)

I had a blast grouping with you the other day, at this point I almost dread having a warrior in the group : D
Ive yet to see anyone be picky about hybrids in their groups, Im starting to think people are making this up : p Personally, I wouldn't have anything to do with someone that stingy about some exp

+1 for what Oogmog is saying