Duration of Shared Grp XP Penalties

[utenan]

Originally Posted by eqholmes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought the penalty was going to kill my ranger getting groups, but I was wrong. Since the penalty has come out I have yet to be shunned anymore than normal. I feel out of all the hybrids that the Ranger is the one most likely to get screwed, but if I’m still getting groups how bad can it be for bards/sk/pals? Hell I’m the hired hand for tanking 80% of the time and most people are like dam rangers aren’t that bad after all.

Holmes 50 Nerco DA
Gretzky 44 Ranger DA (NEW MAIN probably)

I had a blast grouping with you the other day, at this point I almost dread having a warrior in the group : D
Ive yet to see anyone be picky about hybrids in their groups, Im starting to think people are making this up : p Personally, I wouldn't have anything to do with someone that stingy about some exp

+1 for what Oogmog is saying

[Bumamgar]

Originally Posted by Oogmog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like I responded in another thread, did you not play classic? A level 45 would level MUCH slower than a level 43 in the same group. 99% of the people playing on this server can verify this as being truth. Here, a level 45 in groups levels at the same rate as that same level 43. That is not how it was on classic.

I was simply explaining why hell levels weren't mentioned in the producer's letter.

[Bumamgar]

Originally Posted by Oogmog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really don't want to come off like a jerk

Then you might want to avoid making comments like this:

Originally Posted by Oogmog

Like I responded in another thread, did you not play classic?

[eqholmes]

Originally Posted by utenan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had a blast grouping with you the other day, at this point I almost dread having a warrior in the group : D
Ive yet to see anyone be picky about hybrids in their groups, Im starting to think people are making this up : p Personally, I wouldn't have anything to do with someone that stingy about some exp

+1 for what Oogmog is saying

Thanks man, I love grouping with good shamans. We duo'd the crap out of window! haha

Holmes 50 Nerco DA
Gretzky 44 Ranger DA

[Oogmog]

Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then you might want to avoid making comments like this:

I've made the same post probably 5 times and haven't got a response. You were brought on to fix a problem with ogre experience then made an assumption based decision on hell level experience because there was no mention of hell levels in the developers thread in which you based your information from. I'm all for keeping this server classic, as much as I don't like the hybrid penalty, I'm living with it. I can live with shared hell level experience as well. However, it was not classic and the last time I said it was not classic you in fact linked me to the developers thread(in which I had previously posted as well so I knew of the link), and I responded, and was ignored. It was a valid question to ask if you've played classic and there is no "nice" way to ask the question. You're either going to take offense or you can respond "Yes, I did, and that is how I remembered it" or whatever. The fact you took offense to it might be an indication that you don't exactly remember how hell levels worked and coded it improperly because you assumed hell levels were in fact included in the penalty and that is all I'm advocating for the dev's to examine and consider fixing to make it "classic" like this server is attempting to accomplish.

[Maurk]

I thought i wouldnt be able to find groups
but people still love having hybrids in group

im still very sad that me and my friend who plays druid cant duo anymore..
(well we can, but is in no way worth it)
ughh
if only i played nonstop beffforrre this damn "bug" got fixed
ughh im such a nerdd

[Ihealyou]

Originally Posted by Striiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

- Groups, if given the choice, will pick other non/lower XP penalty classes to fill slots. This is the classic Warrior and SK both are LFG. The group will pick the warrior. Same applies to racial penalties and this is even higher when the racial and class penalties are present in one player.

I have a moderately twinked 19 warrior. He has two obsidian shards and still has trouble maintaining aggro. If there is a monk or rogue in the group they're going to be tanking a lot unless they back off the dps. If the mob is yellow or higher, I can't even taunt it. You receive an 11%-18% penalty, depending on race, from adding a hybrid to your group. IMO, its worth it.

[feanan]

i'm just curious, since i never played with a warrior at lower levels on classic. is something messed up here with warriors, or did they just always suck at low levels?

[Oogmog]

Originally Posted by Ihealyou [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a moderately twinked 19 warrior. He has two obsidian shards and still has trouble maintaining aggro. If there is a monk or rogue in the group they're going to be tanking a lot unless they back off the dps. If the mob is yellow or higher, I can't even taunt it. You receive an 11%-18% penalty, depending on race, from adding a hybrid to your group. IMO, its worth it.

Actually, its even and above ya cant taunt.. just to make matters worse. Really though, SK's and Pals will still be useful until you can get a 37 War with 2 yaks+fbss. Best advice for a warrior.. dont do camps where things are even or above, you need to be fighting blue stuff to have a chance at hell of holding aggro.

[Oogmog]

Originally Posted by feanan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i'm just curious, since i never played with a warrior at lower levels on classic. is something messed up here with warriors, or did they just always suck at low levels?

They eventually made it so warriors could taunt +5 levels above them.. but for some reason I'm thinking that may have been a 60+ deal, I'm not sure.. I was max level when they added it so not sure of the specifics other than I knew I could. Read the other post I just made on advice for warriors holding aggro though.