Beware the gnome Whukes

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

such a pointless witch hunt.

I hope this thread doesn't tarnish your name too much whukes, though it seems that was the entire point of this post since the op had no claim to hadden and is just pissy he didn't get the tag because he was busy watching cartoons.

just my opinion, if a dispute is brought to public forums gm's should just wash their hands of it. If people want to handle things the way they are supposed to be handled, petitions etc great, the moment they bring it to public forums trying to slander a player because theyre upset they obviously don't care about the issue they're just mad they were beaten and want to ruin the guys rep.

Whukes /friending you as soon as I log in, hell i might give you some cash for being an UPSTANDING member.

Yeah we get it. You like Whukes. Why not offer a nice BJ along with that friending and plat while you're at it. As someone else already posted, there was no witch hunt until he started acting like a twat on the forum. From his first post I could tell he was an asshole.

Plus, I have never met a gnome I liked. Hey, do you play a gnome too? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Just wondering.

[Flamewraith]

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah we get it. You like Whukes.

My thoughts exactly.

[kylok]

$37 for fraps to prove what happened - guess that's the price you pay for evidence.

[Ambrotos]

It's very simple. If you want a camp, be active at it. Engaging a NPC 23 seconds after it spawns while knowing other people are there is a sure sign of " Hey I don't wait it".

It doesn't matter if he was there for 5.5 hours or not, if he is afk after the npc spawns, the it is open for anyone.

[Flamewraith]

Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's very simple. If you want a camp, be active at it. Engaging a NPC 23 seconds after it spawns while knowing other people are there is a sure sign of " Hey I don't wait it".

It doesn't matter if he was there for 5.5 hours or not, if he is afk after the npc spawns, the it is open for anyone.

I'm sorry but 23 seconds is not a lot of time, especially at a strung out camp like Hadden. I know you're just working with what you have, but this is so disappointing. It's so obvious that the wiz is scum.

[Danth]

I agree, 20 seconds is not a long time in a multi-hour camp, or even in an ordinary ~20 minute dungeon respawn wait for that matter. It is unreasonable to expect someone to give a computer 100% attention over a multi-hour session, and requiring it (at a cost of otherwise losing the camp) merely promotes unhealthy behavior. EQ is a game designed with lengthy sessions in mind and the rules ought to account for that. However, I don't make the rules. As such, I can merely ask for clarification:

If 20 seconds is too slow, than what's the permissible reaction time?

If the answer is "instant", then effectively every last camp boils down to FTE due to things like network lag and discrepancies between the local log and server log.

This question is not academic; as the GM's already know, come Velious and its likely high population, people WILL be fighting over camps. Clarification now may prevent some problems later.

Danth

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[Reapin]

Originally Posted by kylok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whukes a gnome wizard just kill stole Hadden at 4:52 am PST. Beware of this little guy and any fishy earrings he may be selling. Very frustrating to sit at that camp for 6 hours to have someone log in and blast him while I'm beating on him.

Saw him in EC today, his Surname is Scumbag lol

[kylok]

It's looking like the decision has been made, which is fine with me. Since Whukes logged after killing Hadden I've been able to retain the camp. Although it seems that there is no evidence that I could submit to prove that I had the camp. Server logs say he engaged before me, which is true, doesn't sound like a 6 hour video of me sitting at Hadden would do much beyond prove that I sat for 6 hours but missed a 30 second window. I will keep this kind of thing in mind when camping in the future (I also have Fraps now). Good luck to everyone on their current and future camps.

Would also like to thank Ambrotos again for his speedy and attentive responses on this issue.

[LiQuid]

After all is said and done Kata is a dummy for not being vigilant after he 1. KNEW Hadden was about to spawn and 2. saw Whukes back from his restful night of sleep.

I guess the valuable lesson learned here should be never to give anybody the benefit of the doubt that they aren't going to be a turdburglar.

Good luck on the next Hadden pop Kata. Make sure you get there a nice, early 30-45 seconds or so before he pops and hope whoever is there "camping" him is really into his cartoons.