Cold Case Files: VP in Seb

[Servellious]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO has killed trak with 17 and I've seen IB/TR wipe to trak with 60.... anything else?

I've seen Tmo wipe to trak 5 times with 30+ in the past 2 months please go crawl back under your rock and cuddle with Alawen

[quido]

I soloed Trak and I saw FE wipe to Trak with a raidforce of over a thousand players

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I soloed Trak and I saw FE wipe to Trak with a raidforce of over a thousand players

confirmed.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by AenarieFenninRo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is compounded by the statement:


While I'm a nice guy and will take your statement at face value that you're not saying "who did what" Merkk, posting the second video with the first implies that you're stating the second was also the same people who did the first. To add to that the quote about positioning, which FE has blasted TMO for in the past, this is consistent with a fallacy called poisoning the well.

Because I am taking your statement at face value that you're not trying to be biased, my suggestion for the future would be that next time post the videos into separate threads, and ask people to then watch, and ask who in the video did what. They may not be able to say names, but they can say "the guy in the blue robe with the white helm / mask"

At that point, people are drawing their own conclusions, not the conclusions you're pointing them toward.

I see, I should of posted 2 thread as to not draw stuff towards the 2 TMO in the first video?

Its hard to separate own personal bias. I do agree maybe I could of done the post differently as to not direct attention towards them, wasn't my intention to correlate that the people in first vid are responsible for the 2nd video, guess I didn't make that clear enough.

Thanks for elaborating on that point. I am not perfect and do accept your points 100%. I was just trying to paint how I felt + let other draw evidence from what I gathered, I do not have much of a story from the TMO side as there is 2 sides to every story. So I understand how the onlooker could draw that the first video's culprits are directly correlated to what happens in the second.

[Godefroi]

Originally Posted by AenarieFenninRo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What I found interesting in the second video is the following:
Visceral says in your guild chat "I have social agro"
then you see someone flash out of lich form on far side of lair
Person who was in lich is wearing dark blue robe white helm or face (known gear of Visceral)
Same person is seen running around the far side of the lair from camera with trak running after him... goes off camera, comes back, goes off again, and comes back again... and even lives right up until the 1:17 mark, after that its harder to keep track of them because camera keeps panning in and out of gnome vision.

I would say that i'm 90% sure thats Visceral... first the person comes out of lich form, and Visceral wears that dark blue robe. Cant be 100% on that because too far to see name... that is also the same person that runs around quite a bit with trak following, and the whole time that its happening Visceral has gone silent in guild chat

Now I grant you that is all anecdotal evidence, but without seeing the name you cant say that it WASNT or WAS.

I wear a black and green robe from VP even at trak since I don't care about resists and just DA. So nope, wasnt me. I stalled With 3DAs but I didnt have FTE, trakanon pinged on me 30 seconds then I got shroomed and died. It's not on the video.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see, I should of posted 2 thread as to not draw stuff towards the 2 TMO in the first video?

Its hard to separate own personal bias. I do agree maybe I could of done the post differently as to not direct attention towards them, wasn't my intention to correlate that the people in first vid are responsible for the 2nd video, guess I didn't make that clear enough.

Thanks for elaborating on that point. I am not perfect and do accept your points 100%. I was just trying to paint how I felt + let other draw evidence from what I gathered, I do not have much of a story from the TMO side as there is 2 sides to every story. So I understand how the onlooker could draw that the first video's culprits are directly correlated to what happens in the second.

you could have put it in 1000 different posts the conclusion would still be the same.

[Godefroi]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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This was 4 hours before the last Trakanon pop and happened up until trak actually popped, sound had to be muted to protect the identity of those harmed in the process. It's all over a prot/tola and the wonderful monks from TMO made it their vendetta to take out all their frustrations on unknowing non FD classes from FE while tracking Trak, you watch, you be the judge, once again sorry for now sound.

now onto the next piece of shocking evidence

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This doesn't catch the original trakanon pop (about a minute is missing) the kite lasted for about 2.5 mins. Wonder if thats how long it takes to position? a dragon and wait for multiple shrooms/aoes to go off... you watch, you be the judge, kept this one raw so you can truely get a grip on the exact scenario.

TMO went on to wipe to trak, then relentlessly tried to CR (multiple mishaps of trak being trained on FE raid from people CR'ing breaking line of sight and a certain somebody who got shroomed flopping with intentions of griefing FE).

I post this for the forum warriors across norrath. VP leaking into seb.

Safe to assume xButthurtx will get a suspension outta those rage trains lol

[Chloroform]

OH GOD AALPHA'S IN THE BACK OF THE LAYER. WHAT A SNIPER, OMG OMG OMG

[AenarieFenninRo]

Originally Posted by Godefroi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wear a black and green robe from VP even at trak since I don't care about resists and just DA. So nope, wasnt me. I stalled With 3DAs but I didnt have FTE, trakanon pinged on me 30 seconds then I got shroomed and died. It's not on the video.

Again, to take at face value from a statement, it wasn't you

Can anyone identify who is the person in the second video in the dark blue robe that is a necro, and appears to not have his epic but some dark colored stick of sorts?

Darkdeath appears on screen with him at the same time, so we know its not him (again, assumption that the light blue / duckstaff was darkdeath)

Inquiring minds WANT TO KNOW!

We will find you!

[AenarieFenninRo]

Originally Posted by AenarieFenninRo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can anyone identify who is the person in the second video in the dark blue robe that is a necro, and appears to not have his epic but some dark colored stick of sorts?

Maybe thats white hair not a helm... Dark Elf model? I doubt we're talking of guise here since it goes directly from Lich to normal model while running so cast time on guise would be out.