Svenn ninja loots a NoS, writes a thread about it.

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty sure another group killing a full round of your camp is the definition of 'no presence at the camp'. So are you saying if I am killing random frogs at the entrance i can claim the disco?

And I am confused about the inconsistency of your story because a) you are claiming that powafull dragging your rogue was some huge delay but b) you are claiming your rogue was back in camp and c) you are giving me the story in bits and pieces

As soon as the 2nd group arrived and started killing mobs a petition was put in...That is why the GM had logs and a time to make a decision off of when he got there. It being put in by the rogue who was also there showed they had 2 people at camp. The leader of the group there simply sat and waited on a GM to show up to see what was going on. She even told the necro not to hit mobs. The only mobs they engaged while waiting were first the pathers that the group there was too slow to get back to to kill before they respawned and then the PHs that were up in that same cycle because again the 2nd group were very slow going down to emp and killing the 2 PH'es there.

There was no need to run over each other for mobs while waiting on a GM to come so they simply waited instead of making the camp a hectic shit storm like the other group was doing by pulling mobs on top of corpses that they were trying to rez. Which is funny now because "The tank" is trying to deny it now. They could have very easily engaged the same mobs that the other group were killing and making it a worse than it already was because of the antics of the 2nd group. The rogue again even told the other group this in say. She calmly asked them to stop killing mobs in their camp and then informed them the petition was put in and they would wait on a GM. That is when the OOC messages started in seb btw. Which were hilarious for everyone reading I am sure.

IF you think it hasn't been explained clearly I am not going over it again. The camp was obviously given back to the first group for a reason.... The decision that was made obviously doesn't go along with your ideals of way things should be decided obviously. Suffice to say though.... They obviously were found to have a presence at camp that was sufficient enough to hold the camp or it would not have went that way. You can come in RNF all day and say "that was wrong" because the decision went against you.... But anyone with decency and common sense can see the camp was theirs and they were there at the camp when the other group arrived.

I repeat again Killing mobs in crypt isn't hard it doesn't take an insane group to accomplish it. Emperor is the only one that can cause problems if you do it wrong. Which the first group did in this case. The rest doesn't take some herculean effort to kill.... It just takes longer to kill based on who is there and who isn't. You can't steal a camp cause "They weren't killing the mobs fast enough while they were recovering". They had a camp presence and had shown all day they could kill those mobs... Which the logs showed. Better luck next time trying to spin and rule lawyer.

[Halfelfbard]

The GM took mercy on that group, past killing logs prove jack shit. At the present time the camp was unable to b held by said group, the 2nd group should have had rights and moved along...it happens in KC all the time, u have to zone a train 1min later ur camp is gone. Sorry about ur luck, u left move along.

[Splorf22]

Signal, no one is trying to rule lawyer shit. The decision was made and its not like we are trying to get your hiero transferred. I am simply stating that from what I know about camp rules the decision was BS, because a rogue/necro team is not enough to hold the crypt, i.e. even kill the crypt named (ignoring the emperor). At no time between your petition and when it was answered did you have sufficient force.

Now would it have been super nice of the group to give you more time? Absolutely. But the rules are if you wipe, you lose the camp. I really don't understand why you are arguing this, but I guess this is just your anon troll account so w/e. I've made my points over and over so I'm done with the thread. I'll let you have the honor of the last post. Good day sir.

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Halfelfbard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The GM took mercy on that group, past killing logs prove jack shit. At the present time the camp was unable to b held by said group, the 2nd group should have had rights and moved along...it happens in KC all the time, u have to zone a train 1min later ur camp is gone. Sorry about ur luck, u left move along.

Except the group still had a presence at camp... Which your adolescent brain is missing. They had 2 people at the camp they had held ALL DAY...By the time the other group got there. You can't go to someone elses camp and tell them how fast they have to kill mobs. One of them even admitted they got there and a mob was engaged by the necro already. That it was charmed. So obviously things were being engaged when they got there and handled. Mobs were being killed in that camp BEFORE they got there by the GROUP who was holding the camp AFTER the initial wipe. You can't run into that camp and say "Oh they aren't killing these mobs fast enough in here so I will take their mobs".

Good luck next time and please try to comprehend what was really going on in this situation... These guys that tried to steal this camp went from saying "They weren't there" and "The necro was only FD when we got there" to saying "He had a mob charmed". See past the BS they are trying to spin out of this situation and read the camp rules while you do it. 2 people or 6 there the camp had a presence and mobs were being engaged in that camp when they 2nd group arrived. This wasn't a situation where "Everyone left the camp" or "No one was at the camp when another group arrived". This is a clear case where one group tried to overrun another group in their camp because a rogue in their group advised them the camp was open when it wasn't. How hard is this to understand ? Look how their story keeps changing as we go along here.

[Halfelfbard]

You can so run in there after the wipe, u remember that cleric named xosire? He used to train people in KC get them killed or force them to zone then snag there camp...they left perfectly legal.

Happened to me aswell, it sucked ass but its the rules.

[Tecmos Deception]

I'm kinda scared that next time I go into south on my enchanter to kill the one named spawn in the cave on the western side of the wing, a guide is going to show up and bitch slap me because of a FD necro and a hidden rogue sitting in the central cave who have been waiting on a LD friend to come back for 25 minutes but who still think they have a legit claim to the entire south wing.

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Signal, no one is trying to rule lawyer shit. The decision was made and its not like we are trying to get your hiero transferred. I am simply stating that from what I know about camp rules the decision was BS, because a rogue/necro team is not enough to hold the crypt, i.e. even kill the crypt named (ignoring the emperor). At no time between your petition and when it was answered did you have sufficient force.

Now would it have been super nice of the group to give you more time? Absolutely. But the rules are if you wipe, you lose the camp. I really don't understand why you are arguing this, but I guess this is just your anon troll account so w/e. I've made my points over and over so I'm done with the thread. I'll let you have the honor of the last post. Good day sir.

BS they had their full group down there and ready to be rezzed. They kept pulling mobs on top of the corpses as I stated earlier so they waited to rez while they were doing that bullshit. AGAIN the full group DID NOT wipe. They had camp presence and were engaging mobs in THE CAMP when another group showed up. How hard is this for you to understand ? Watch how the story keeps changing from the guilty parties in this very thread to try to make excuses for what they were doing.

They intentionally interfered with another groups camp.... While that group had a presence there. While that group was engaging mobs already in the camp. You don't go into a camp where 2 people are with corpses and see a mob engaged by 1 person and say "Hey I think I will kill these other mobs in this camp because they haven't got to them yet as fast as I would like them to". Case closed.

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm kinda scared that next time I go into south on my enchanter to kill the one named spawn in the cave on the western side of the wing, a guide is going to show up and bitch slap me because of a FD necro and a hidden rogue sitting in the central cave who have been waiting on a LD friend to come back for 25 minutes but who still think they have a legit claim to the entire south wing.

The necro wasn't FD when they arrived read the thread. They made that up at first and then went on to say he had a mob engaged....lol. A-team again right ? Spin harder.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Signal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The necro wasn't FD when they arrived read the thread. They made that up at first and then went on to say he had a mob engaged....lol. A-team again right ? Spin harder.

My mistake. But that's pretty irrelevant, really.

[Tecmos Deception]

So is the new ruling on what is required in order to claim a camp now "if your group can conceivably at some point in the indefinitely-distant future kill everything at a camp, then that camp is yours and yours alone"?