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[mickmoranis]

I love how libcucks defend the media every chance they get and then attack corporations every chance they get and yet the only media that prints their gabrage bullshit have paywalls and enforce turning off adblock before you can view their cucky content.

[Toehammer]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In Xaanka's head -- a Trustfund that last someone's life is a rare thing; and assholes like Gates are telling the truth when they said they aren't leaving their kids much-- bullshit. Their set for life and theirs a good chance their kids will be too.

And so what about Buffet and Gates, the two guys that tried to make a show of not leaving all their wealth to their children (thereby somewhat disproving the notion that its all about helping their children). What about the fucking Koch brothers? I guess that's one hell of coincidence that both brothers were great hardworking business men....or maybe inherited wealth has way more to do with it than propaganda Republicans and Democrats brainwash their bases with.

we aren't playing musical chairs with the 1% of wealth....according to Xaanka about 1/3 of us will make over 400,000 a year one day...horseshit...where are you getting this?

Not that it fuckin matters for sake of argument. That's what we call income and not wealth. Wealth is passive income essentially. And it distributed far more unequally than income -- which is still far more unequal than the image your painting.

I normally don't comment, but there is some misunderstanding of money/economics here (not just Juris, Xaanka too).

FACT: It is super fucking easy to become wealthy in the United States. Live below your means, invest the surplus in a stock market index.

FACT: High salary has zero predictive power for determining wealth. Most high salaray people are invested in ridiculous assets, debt, or a high consumption lifestyle that is unsustainable (and causes bankruptcy) if they lose their job or salary goes down.

FACT: Americans (even "poor" ones) are wealthy, both geographically and temporally. Never been a wealthier time/place.

OPINION: Investing in the stock market index is the simplest yet most charitable cause to which you can contribute. By investing, you responsibly put your money in industrious hands, reduce the money greedy wall street high-fee sharks speculate with all day, and you increase your own wealth the fastest which will let you give to a noble charity once you are financially independent.

FACT: Inequality is a good thing in economics (salary, wealth, investment IQ). Never has it been easier to build wealth. Moronic consumer drones should be allowed to do with their money as they please, but then please don't whine about the 1% who saved their money intelligently.

Equality of outcome is the biggest evil that has seeped into progressive minds in recent times. Sure some people start with advantages (wealthy parents teach them the rules, superior IQ, connections) and disadvantages (drug-infused upbringing, terrible parents, low IQ). But any moron can get rich enough to live off passive income. If you make 50k USD (any idiot can), 10k taxes, live off 20k, and invest the rest at 7% compounding, in 15 years, you can retire and never lift another finger. USA land of opportunity, still.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Toehammer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I normally don't comment, but there is some misunderstanding of money/economics here (not just Juris, Xaanka too).

FACT: It is super fucking easy to become wealthy in the United States. Live below your means, invest the surplus in a stock market index.

FACT: High salary has zero predictive power for determining wealth. Most high salaray people are invested in ridiculous assets, debt, or a high consumption lifestyle that is unsustainable (and causes bankruptcy) if they lose their job or salary goes down.

FACT: Americans (even "poor" ones) are wealthy, both geographically and temporally. Never been a wealthier time/place.

OPINION: Investing in the stock market index is the simplest yet most charitable cause to which you can contribute. By investing, you responsibly put your money in industrious hands, reduce the money greedy wall street high-fee sharks speculate with all day, and you increase your own wealth the fastest which will let you give to a noble charity once you are financially independent.

FACT: Inequality is a good thing in economics (salary, wealth, investment IQ). Never has it been easier to build wealth. Moronic consumer drones should be allowed to do with their money as they please, but then please don't whine about the 1% who saved their money intelligently.

Equality of outcome is the biggest evil that has seeped into progressive minds in recent times. Sure some people start with advantages (wealthy parents teach them the rules, superior IQ, connections) and disadvantages (drug-infused upbringing, terrible parents, low IQ). But any moron can get rich enough to live off passive income. If you make 50k USD (any idiot can), 10k taxes, live off 20k, and invest the rest at 7% compounding, in 15 years, you can retire and never lift another finger. USA land of opportunity, still.

I don't think any of those are actually facts. The 3rd one is probably a matter of measurement to be fair. But everyone knows real purchasing power with wages is down and the prices for property relative to earning power are up.

1) It's not super easy to live within your means unless you are a well-paid single person that is not supporting anyone else.

2) It's really fucking obvious that high wages will have some predictive power over wealth -- don't even have to look that up.

3) If it was easy to be wealthy, near everyone would be.

4) It doesn't even seem to occur to you that it is possible to lose capital through investment -- sometimes just from shit luck.

5) It's not a charity to spend your capital to help yourself get more capital -- even if other people are aided in the process.

6) People that write post like your tend to have had a lot of help "getting started" in life that they take for granted. "Getting started" is 90% of the work.

7) Rising, severe wealth inequality is not a good thing. You guys love this "equallity of outcomes" strawman that no one has ever suggested...not even Stalin...ever in history...But some inequality is not what were referring to. Obviously the CEO gets paid more than the janitor -- that isn't a problem in and of itself. It's when the CEOs kids get vastly more opportunity than the janitor's -- even if the CEO's kids a shitbyrds and the janitor's are top of the class. This is usually accompanied by political instability.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think any of those are actually facts. The 3rd one is probably a matter of measurement to be fair. But everyone knows real purchasing power with wages is down and the prices for property relative to earning power are up.

1) It's not super easy to live within your means unless you are a well-paid single person that is not supporting anyone else.

2) It's really fucking obvious that high wages will have some predictive power over wealth -- don't even have to look that up.

3) If it was easy to be wealthy, near everyone would be.

4) It doesn't even seem to occur to you that it is possible to lose capital through investment -- sometimes just from shit luck.

5) It's not a charity to spend your capital to help yourself get more capital -- even if other people are aided in the process.

6) People that write post like your tend to have had a lot of help "getting started" in life that they take for granted. "Getting started" is 90% of the work.

7) Rising, severe wealth inequality is not a good thing. You guys love this "equallity of outcomes" strawman that no one has ever suggested...not even Stalin...ever in history...But some inequality is not what were referring to. Obviously the CEO gets paid more than the janitor -- that isn't a problem in and of itself. It's when the CEOs kids get vastly more opportunity than the janitor's -- even if the CEO's kids a shitbyrds and the janitor's are top of the class. This is usually accompanied by political instability.

This is great in theory, but in an era where it takes nothing to survive and the dumb fucks are the ones having children, I'd have to say I strongly disagree. Look at obesity. There is zero excuse to be overweight in a modern country, and yet people are easily manipulated by marketing and their own body's response to dopamine. 99% of people are susceptible to mistake making by virtue or it satisfying their need for instant gratification. It is only through Christ, rather than Marx, that you'll find your salvation

Vaya con dios

[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is great in theory, but in an era where it takes nothing to survive and the dumb fucks are the ones having children, I'd have to say I strongly disagree. Look at obesity. There is zero excuse to be overweight in a modern country, and yet people are easily manipulated by marketing and their own body's response to dopamine. 99% of people are susceptible to mistake making by virtue or it satisfying their need for instant gratification. It is only through Christ, rather than Marx, that you'll find your salvation

Vaya con dios

I like to think that living in Houston has filled you with an epistemological hatred towards the morbidly obese, just as it did for me.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is great in theory, but in an era where it takes nothing to survive and the dumb fucks are the ones having children, I'd have to say I strongly disagree. Look at obesity. There is zero excuse to be overweight in a modern country, and yet people are easily manipulated by marketing and their own body's response to dopamine. 99% of people are susceptible to mistake making by virtue or it satisfying their need for instant gratification. It is only through Christ, rather than Marx, that you'll find your salvation

Vaya con dios

dopamine reward pathways govern all human behavior.

[Pokesan]

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nice seriouspost gaylord

wow rude

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[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dopamine reward pathways govern all human behavior.

sad but true. the nuances of deprogramming your dopamine can involve some pretty xtreme stuff. this 1 British guy who went out into the woods with literally nothing and survived off the land for a week said he'd never risk his life like that again, but that it absolutely worked and boosted his neuroplasticity enough to make major life changes. he said if he did it again he would bring some basic survivor tools and a backpack of camp equipment.

there is science to the Survivor series manuver. many people travel to completely foreign areas with vastly different environmental conditions and living space than they are used to. I.E. members of the Rolling Stones would go to an island to dry out and eat coconuts and wander around. this whole sit in a doctors office or a hospital bed and change your dopamine reward pathways is laughable and completely headed in the wrong direction. you cant change pathways by talking to someone with a Dr. in front of their name. you need real life. not more industrial bullshit.

survivorman wasn't a gamer tho. a MOBA fiends prescription is summary execution. there is no hope for a MOBA tryhard on this planet besides becoming bear food. cringing right now at all the little keyboard peckers.

[skarlorn]

absolutely. i've protected myself and also saved myself by going to dramatically different environments to either do dopamine abuse or recover from it. therapists office is a joke, unless you're getting suCCed too (seriously that would be useful). this is why Outward Bound and other outdoor programs are good for little MOBA cucks.

[Lulz~Sect]

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