FE knowingly KS's TMO's Trak, Rushes to complete keys and Epics

[Frieza_Prexus]

Of course petitions are where I'd put anything substantive that I wanted read, however this thread seemed the most obvious place to start looking. After all, the thread's title "FE knowingly KS's TMO's Trak, Rushes to complete keys and epics" kind of lends itself to the subject.

[falkun]

"New" is the wrong word. "Delimited" is more accurate since its existed at least since TMO stole the wiz staff from BDA's VS, if not longer.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Xasten is arguing the Xanthias precedent doesn't apply here. I'm arguing its not for him to decide, and that if he is correctly lawyering about incorrect precedent, that a new, applicable precedent that hasn't been discussed does exist, and has existed to his guild's benefit before it possibly benefits FE in this case. I also reiterate he's barking up the wrong tree, again, because he still seems to be missing the memo.

My inquiry here has strictly been limited to asking a single question. As I said, I hoped to defer conversation into detailed points until I had my answer. By spilling my thoughts, I was simply responding to a point leveled at me.

(And, for the record, if TMO received a duplicated wizard staff it, in my opinion, should have been instead deleted, or as I cited, a deficit of one owed gnarled staff should be created.)

[falkun]

I do not agree that rightfully earned loot should be removed/owed because of illegitimately earned loot in the passed. I feel guilds/persons should be accountable for the crimes they commit, nothing more. What happens in the incredibly unlikely scenario where a guild doesn't get another Trak guts (in this instance) for many months, long enough that bards that attend this new guts Trak kill are there and none of the bards that attended the stolen guts Trak raid attend. These new, innocent bards are now held accountable for actions they did not help commit, and are deprived an epic due to an absent person. In my opinion, that is less fair than allowing the guts to exist for both parties from the stolen guts Trak. Similar to Blackstone's formulation.

[falkun]

If you want to remove the offending stolen item, that is fine, but the idea of possibly depriving future innocent parties does not resonate with this Virtuoso.

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO finally get a (specific) mob? You're allowed to bash them again? (not flaming, honestly curious).

no, I'm just a known liar

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no, I'm just a known liar

similar to the majority of your F&R crew. trolls.

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

similar to the majority of your F&R crew. trolls.

F&R?

to many punches to the skull for this guy

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

F&R?

to many punches to the skull for this guy

flames and rants/rants and flames...

prove too many punches to my skull you homeless hobbit...

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Happyfeet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're welcome, I provided real data... Tell nirgon he owes me head. Well shit, now he owes me double head. ++

The real Noreaga owe me a hundid fayvahs?

PM me what you has.