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Old 04-18-2019, 09:18 PM
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Law enforcement doesn't prove conspiracy. Law enforcement investigates and determines if there is sufficient evidence to recommend the case to a prosecutorial body for potential charges where the charges will then be proven or disproven in the appropriate venue. In this case, the venue is Congress. Haven't you ever watched Law & Order? As per the quote in my previous post, Mueller left it to the discretion of Congress to pursue it further, just as any decent investigator would.
Read Page 2 of the Report.

It proves you wrong.
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:23 PM
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Read Page 2 of the Report.
"A statement that the investigation did not establish particular facts does not mean there was no evidence of those facts." - Page 2
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:21 PM
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Law enforcement doesn't prove conspiracy. Law enforcement investigates and determines if there is sufficient evidence to recommend the case to a prosecutorial body for potential charges where the charges will then be proven or disproven in the appropriate venue. In this case, the venue is Congress. Haven't you ever watched Law & Order? As per the quote in my previous post, Mueller left it to the discretion of Congress to pursue it further, just as any decent investigator would.
Congress doesn't have any prosecutorial powers, you fuckng retard.
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:26 PM
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Congress doesn't have any prosecutorial powers, you fuckng retard.
This is what I mean when I say smattering of dimwits. This vegetable apparently skipped school they day civics class talked about impeachment.
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:33 PM
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Law enforcement doesn't prove conspiracy. Law enforcement investigates and determines if there is sufficient evidence to recommend the case to a prosecutorial body for potential charges where the charges will then be proven or disproven in the appropriate venue. In this case, the venue is Congress. Haven't you ever watched Law & Order? As per the quote in my previous post, Mueller left it to the discretion of Congress to pursue it further, just as any decent investigator would.
Mueller's report was made to the AG, not congress. The AG is the prosecutorial body. It was the AG's decision on whether or not to prosecute, and he isn't because the evidence isn't there. If he had decided to prosecute it would be his job to prove it happened. The only thing that Congress can do is impeach, which isn't going to happen.
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:50 PM
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Mueller's report was made to the AG, not congress. The AG is the prosecutorial body. It was the AG's decision on whether or not to prosecute, and he isn't because the evidence isn't there. If he had decided to prosecute it would be his job to prove it happened. The only thing that Congress can do is impeach, which isn't going to happen.
The Attorney General is the chief LAW ENFORCEMENT officer. So the SCO is like the detectives in an episode of Law and Order. They investigate and then present their findings to the prosecutors, who then decide if charges will be filed. How many of the dozens of indictments produced by the SCO did the AG prosecute? None, because that's not his role. Impeach isn't the only thing Congress can do. It can also investigate, and since the composition of the House was changed during the midterms, the Intelligence Committee can look at basically whatever it wants.

We're all aware that Republicans control the Senate and would never vote to convict Trump on impeachment charges forwarded by the House. That's why I've recommended to my colleagues to wait until the close of session just before the next election to recommend articles of impeachment to the Senate so that the current Senate doesn't have time to conduct the impeachment. The entire election then becomes a referendum on Trump. Do you want to re-elect a lame duck president who could face impeachment by a Democrat-controlled Senate after the election? Oh, and we'll also be impeaching the rapist supreme court justice. He doesn't have anything like the immunity of a president.
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:03 PM
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After reading a good chunk of the Report, I’m convinced now that the main goal was not to indict President Trump or his team but rather to sow doubt for the 2020 race and to cover up Hillary’s crimes. Here’s the rundown:

Sowing Doubt:

Mueller’s team complains on Page 10 about lack of evidence and claims it prevented them from reaching a verdict. This is completely baseless. After interviewing hundreds of witnesses and tens thousands of hours of work, no evidence was found. That indicates President Trump and his team are 100% innocent. They know this too, so they are pretending the goal was to prove innocence. That is never how a prosecution works.

There is no legal reason for Mueller to include the phrase on Page 78, “This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency.” That’s hearsay as it came from someone else and there is no legal justification for its inclusion in the document when the goal was to determine whether a crime was committed or not. It’s a salacious quote for the media and Democrats.

(incidentally, if you want to know how we know Trump’s team did NOT collude with the Russians, check out page 145 where Hope Hicks and Jared Kushner try rather ineptly and humorously to verify an email and phone call from Russian officials. We’re supposed to believe they were secretly colluding behind closed doors with the country? Give me a break).

Cover up:

On Page 36 the Report insists that the DNC was hacked by the GRU. There is no indication that Mueller or his team personally reviewed the physical DNC server or what kind of investigation was conducted. The DNC refused to show the FBI their server upon request. To date, the only people who are known to have had access to the server is a private company called CrowdStrike.

On Page 48 Mueller insists that Seth Rich is not the source of the emails but fails to produce any reason why Seth Rich is not the source. It was a mere namedrop.

Seymour Hersh is not mentioned at all. Hersh is a NYTimes reporter who named Seth Rich as the source of the Wikileaks emails.

On Page 25 Mueller’s team played up the influence of alleged Russian Facebook and Twitter ads while downplaying their pro-Hillary posts.

On Page 152, Mueller claimed Russian government officials and businessmen immediately went about to work with Trump after he won. What Mueller doesn’t appear to mention is that alleged Russian accounts worked against Trump as soon as he won. In fact, they were promoting Mueller and the Russian investigation (imagine that!). You can see evidence of the tweets here and here.

There’s not a single mention of Tony Podesta or Podesta Group

The Steele dossier appears to be mentioned only in passing. No detailed investigation into the veracity or origins. Remember this is supposedly a dossier with a source directly from the Kremlin. Seems relevant.

No apparent mention in the entire document about the State Department emails that were hacked in 2016. It seriously appears that Russia did hack those (the official who was hacked was tasked with studying Russia). Why no mention of this very real hack?

There you have it. I know this report vindicates Trump, but it’s also a massive coverup. They want to bury Seth Rich for good and they want to cement in the minds of every American that Russia hacked the election to help Trump while downplaying the anti-Trump activities of these other alleged Russian accounts.
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After reading a good chunk of the Report, I’m convinced now that the main goal was not to indict President Trump or his team but rather to sow doubt for the 2020 race and to cover up Hillary’s crimes.
LMAO nobody cares. Hillary isn't running for anything. If you coulda, you woulda. Impotence.
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:37 PM
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who's winning so far?
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I think OP thought Rants and Flames meant "O gosh darn I'm so angry about this thing! O look, here's a place where I can vent about that!"

But didn't realize that this is more like... P99's 4chan or something.

except instead of random anons its a shark attack of a small clique that posts here all the time. so he's doubly fucked.
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mead is COOL yall are lame
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