Myconid Spore King - Monk Solo - Page 86

DeathsSilkyMist · #**851** 07-09-2025, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But now that the glaring flaws in the SAC have come up, they need to be fixed, right? Sometimes you have to put bitterness aside for the sake of progress.

If the community wants to change it, you can make a new thread and a poll. You do not get to unilaterally decide.

DeathsSilkyMist · #**852** 07-09-2025, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have (willfully?) bad reading comprehension.

I do not. You keep claiming to be impartial, while taking Samoht and Zuranthium's side by leaving their changes in.

Either you are impartial or you are not.

loramin · #**853** 07-09-2025, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the community wants to change it, you can make a new thread and a poll. You do not get to unilaterally decide.

Again, that's not how the wiki works. A poll is never required to edit a page ... as long as you follow the golden rule.

What's that rule again? You have to genuinely be trying to make the page better for everyone. That is the only thing required to edit the wiki.

Samoht · #**854** 07-09-2025, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You do not get to unilaterally decide.

But you do? And in what way is it unilaterally? I had nothing to do with the version of the page up now. That sounds multilateral to me..

shovelquest · #**855** 07-09-2025, 02:30 PM

Here's what happened:

1. Some innocent person posted a video of some gameplay they were proud of.
2. Trolls insulted him.
3. DSM defended him.
4. A troll edited the wiki to win an argument ITT
5. DSM changed it back, and created a separate page to keep the history of the old solo artist challenge (good job DSM).
6. Loramin (who has admitted he is emotionally upset) banned DSM from using the wiki.
7. Loramin continues to bully and harass a P99 player.

Samoht · #**856** 07-09-2025, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Either you are impartial or you are not.

People can be impartial and still disagree with you. It's actually quite easy because most people on these forums disagree with you. It's probably harder to find somebody who is impartial and agrees with you.

bcbrown · #**857** 07-09-2025, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the tiers are inherently problematic. I'm not saying the page can't have them, but I think they're where the fights come from, because person A thinks this detail (outside buffs, power clickys, potions, etc.) shouldn't count or should "lower the tier" somehow, and person B doesn't, or thinks it should lower the tier by less.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. It's not really obvious how to order the various modifiers like "no outside buffs" or "no consumables". There's no real way to compare kills across the various classes, as something that's easy for one class might be prohibitively hard for another class.

Saying melee can get buffs but casters can't at the same "tier" doesn't make a lot of sense to me either. But I empathize with Stryker feeling like it's unfair to say this kill isn't the highest tier because of the buffs.

I think the solution is along the lines of having a single broad classification of "Solo" along with a framework for defining the various possible further restrictions. Then various solo artists can post their kill along with what restrictions they followed, and the readers can come to their own conclusions about what they think is most impressive.

shovelquest · #**858** 07-09-2025, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree about the golden rule. So you think Samoht and Zuranthium did not troll the wiki to lower OP's score, even after you said they were wrong?

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4. A troll edited the wiki to win an argument ITT

As usual, DSM is right, this indeed did happen.

loramin · #**859** 07-09-2025, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's what happened:

1. Some innocent person posted a video of some gameplay they were proud of.
2. Trolls insulted him.
3. A troll defended him.
4. Trolls from both sides edited the wiki to win an argument ITT
5. Loramin suspended DSM (but not for this page ... for creating a page in someone else's name, when they clearly didn't want it ... eight times)

FTFY

Samoht · #**860** 07-09-2025, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As usual, DSM is right, this indeed did happen.

You know, at first I thought your posts were supposed to be ironic or even endearing to a degree, but I'm starting to think you actually might believe the bullshit you're posting.